Does quantum theory imply the entire Universe is preordained?

2 bookofjoe 5 5/16/2025, 1:32:00 PM nature.com ↗

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overu589 · 7h ago
No.

This is a treacherous self deception by which a few smarty pants and a whole lot of restless wonderers poison themselves intellectually (the arguments of determinism.)

This is like having a polite conversational argument with a solipsist, who points to your lack of “proof.”

Quantum theory says that the Universe is potential distributing, not arrangements of states.

Objective existential reality is impermanent. It is decay and interference.

All that we have comes from this decay and interference.

All the rest of existential reality emerges from the interference of all that is left of whatever there is. As it burns down and blows as cinder upon the cosmic winds.

Decay, and the constructive or destructive interference of external influences in realtime is independent of what may be projected by arranged states.

This drives a nail in the coffin of determinism. For the whole Universe decay itself is an example of an exogenous phenomenon, for every other scope (domain) within, that uncertainty is inherited from the enveloping domain.

And at long last, consciousness is a vectoring phenomena.

Consciousness, wherever it is found, is a feedback mechanism which itself may cause constructive and destructive interference.

The word “emergence” with which we are so enamored literally means that which produced potential outcomes exceeding the sum of potentials found in constituent parts.

A car for instance emerges the ability to transport mass far beyond any output obtained from any part. At the expense of additional potential of course. (And here we can argue fuel density or efficiency.)

All matter and whatever makes it up is all “emergent” from the decay and collapse of potentials long before.

Life on Earth emerges in some part on the waste exhaust of Sol as our sun burns down, and the rest of the debris of dead stars before us.

The quantum domain is the lubricant between Universal Potential and existential reality (state resolving in the moment of now.) This lubricant may be tuned and interfered with to achieve certainty (as we will discover in future quantum technology) however it is potential resolving to state, not more states interacting (“all the way down”.)

beardyw · 5h ago
Didn't understand much of that, but to me a different question is: given how things are now could they have turned out differently? I hope that's a different question!
overu589 · 5h ago
One could ask, without consciousness (as a feedback loop) would the Universe flit into and out of existence without anyone noticing?

And to answer, what information and intelligence do for us is to achieve most optimal resolve (iteratively).

If we are ignorant and confused waste and attrition takes the best of everything, when we are wise and prudent we conserve and invest potential, creating more potential.

Therefore yes; wisdom and prudence capacitates, conserves, and perpetuates potential (of existential being). Let’s call that objective “good”, and “bad” whatever squanders it (“potential”).

beardyw · 5h ago
Thanks, that clarifies it immensely. I wonder why it always rains when you have just put the washing out to dry?
bookofjoe · 8h ago