> you would think the 4chan people would know better
I would, in fact, not.
red-iron-pine · 9d ago
no shortage of other *chans to take its place. from what i've heard it was mostly spam and porn at this point anyways. as the replicant said at the end of the movie "time to die"
ValveFan6969 · 10d ago
Uncensored speech scares you like that, huh?
thomassmith65 · 10d ago
Uncensored speech didn't scare me 25 years ago. It does now. Maybe it's old age that changed my mind; maybe it's living in a dystopia.
darthrupert · 8d ago
I was on your level 10 years ago. It has become obvious recently that humanity cannot handle it.
Now, I need very good evidence that it's a good idea before I support the kind of free speech that destroys civilized society from within.
Perhaps it's supremely ironic that americans will have actual need for anonymity in online spaces now. And not for posting dumb memes, but for doing the things to tyrants that their Founding Fathers kept talking about.
quickslowdown · 10d ago
What a mature response that invites further discussion.
IlikeKitties · 10d ago
> Be me
> Run Image Board
> Never update dependencies
> Get pwned by a 12yo exploit
> Jannies use real name gmail adresses
> Board down for days
Oh the lack of humanity
Magi604 · 10d ago
Aside from 4Chan offshoots, I wonder if the "green text" format of posting messages is used anywhere else.
IlikeKitties · 10d ago
Afaik only in reference to green texts, i.e. /r/greentexts
Magi604 · 10d ago
That's strange to me. It's a pretty unique and interesting way of posting messages. You would think it would have been adopted by one of the many other platforms out there.
MrGinkgo · 9d ago
Maybe 4chan's just got too much bad juju. I've also always seen pushback for ">greenposting when the text isn't even green..."
I admit, it is a unique posting style which invites linguistic inquiry, but there is something awkward about seeing it used outside of its home.
shortrounddev2 · 10d ago
I assume they're rewriting the site from scratch since their source was leaked. A common entry level /g/wdg/ exercise is to write your own 4chan clone, so perhaps they could just find an open source option available
ranger_danger · 10d ago
They said it depended on whether or not the janitors stuck around.
They're incapable of moderating the site because they're afraid they'll recruit moderators who abuse their power? This is true of literally any community and you can audit mod logs or remove the ability to delete entire threads (just posts). It seems like their technical issues are turning into community management issues
ranger_danger · 10d ago
They have a legal obligation to moderate content that is against US law and probably against their own rules if they want to keep Section 230 protections. And everyone knows they have a problem with very frequent rule-breaking posts and large bots posting such content.
If there's not enough trustworthy janitors right from the start, it's increasingly likely they could get in trouble too quickly. I think that's what they're worried about.
poincaredisk · 10d ago
"Comprehensive legal action", sure. They need to find the offenders first.
If I was a janitor I would seek legal action, but against the site owners. Not updating their website (that every script kiddie this century would love to hack) for 13 years is clearly a gross negligence.
majorchord · 10d ago
> clearly a gross negligence
If we can't prove this for billion dollar corporations that leak nationwide user data, I don't see how a judge will find 4chan grossly negligent.
Typically you need to show a "conscious and deliberate disregard" for the rights or safety of others, for it to be considered gross negligence. We could argue six ways to Sunday whether or not that's the case, but the only opinion that matters legally is a judge's.
comrade1234 · 10d ago
I don’t understand why they can’t just put up a simple landing page. It makes me wonder how bad it was - like the server was completely nuked.
But as long as there is money to be made it will come back.
on_the_train · 9d ago
Because the goal of 4ch is to keep people out to preserve quality. That worked pretty well.
Interesting, you would think the 4chan people would know better. My guess they are gone for good, not that is a huge loss.
I would, in fact, not.
Now, I need very good evidence that it's a good idea before I support the kind of free speech that destroys civilized society from within.
Perhaps it's supremely ironic that americans will have actual need for anonymity in online spaces now. And not for posting dumb memes, but for doing the things to tyrants that their Founding Fathers kept talking about.
> Run Image Board
> Never update dependencies
> Get pwned by a 12yo exploit
> Jannies use real name gmail adresses
> Board down for days
Oh the lack of humanity
I admit, it is a unique posting style which invites linguistic inquiry, but there is something awkward about seeing it used outside of its home.
https://0x0.st/8O16.png
If there's not enough trustworthy janitors right from the start, it's increasingly likely they could get in trouble too quickly. I think that's what they're worried about.
If I was a janitor I would seek legal action, but against the site owners. Not updating their website (that every script kiddie this century would love to hack) for 13 years is clearly a gross negligence.
If we can't prove this for billion dollar corporations that leak nationwide user data, I don't see how a judge will find 4chan grossly negligent.
Typically you need to show a "conscious and deliberate disregard" for the rights or safety of others, for it to be considered gross negligence. We could argue six ways to Sunday whether or not that's the case, but the only opinion that matters legally is a judge's.
But as long as there is money to be made it will come back.
The new beta site is also already up and running
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