The staff ate it later

142 gyomu 80 9/2/2025, 3:24:48 PM en.wikipedia.org ↗

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Y_Y · 7h ago
> Then Pharaoh also called for the wise men and the sorcerers, and they also, the magicians of Egypt, did the same with their secret arts. For each one threw down his staff and they turned into serpents. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs.

- Exodus 7:1-12 (NIV)

Many moons ago I had a girlfriend who worked on an nationally broadcast afternoon show where they often had guest chefs demonstrating dishes, so I would come home from my thankless PhD work to eat Michelin-starred food from a lunchbox. Overall not so bad.

triceratops · 7h ago
Cool story, I upvoted because the downvotes felt a bit harsh. But what does the first part have to do with the second part?
01HNNWZ0MV43FF · 7h ago
"staff" meaning either the crew filming a TV show, or meaning a magical staff
triceratops · 7h ago
I get it now. More staff engineers than I expected in the Bible.
fsckboy · 6h ago
pretty much everything is in the Bible if you look, even automobiles: "and G-d drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden in His Fury"

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=plymouth%20fury&ia=images&i...

titanomachy · 2h ago
“Jesus and his disciples were all in one Accord”
LorenDB · 1h ago
And don't forget that Moses received the Ten Commandments on tablets, although it doesn't say whether he used iPads or something running Android.
schoen · 1h ago
It's rumored that God was wary of humans having apple products.
tom_ · 57m ago
I gave up tablets and pills of all kinds a long time ago now, but, at the time, if god himself had popped up to tell me something, it wouldn't have been a huge surprise.
sho_hn · 1h ago
And that Revelation 5/6 contain the original doomscroll.
inopinatus · 1h ago
Come for tea, my people.
pfdietz · 7h ago
Maybe the food was left out too long and he got a staff infection?
jfengel · 20m ago
Restaurants (at least in the US) have very strict standards about how long you can keep something at room temperature before you have to throw it away. Those standards are extremely conservative, and lead to a lot of food waste, but if I were on the staff I'd at least want to keep an eye on how long something has been sitting out. Those standards have just been beaten into me.

You also see that on a lot of fictional TV shows with dining scenes. Often nobody actually puts anything in their mouths. It was made hours ago while you were off shooting something else, and still more time while they got costumes, lights, makeup, etc. right (and for several takes). By the time film is rolling it has gotten quite gross.

(Assuming it was even food in the first place. Fake food often looks better and doesn't go off.)

operator-name · 4h ago
In the west we have “No Animals Were Harmed in the making of …”, which I’m only just learning comes from the American Humane Society: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Humane_Society#No_A...

I had always thought it were a generic phrase!

talideon · 1h ago
And "filmed in front of a live studio audience", which doesn't prevent the addition of laugh tracks.
Buildstarted · 1h ago
I read a long time ago that Fran Drescher of The Nanny fame was huge in replacing those audiences with extras instead of random people.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/flashback/how-fran-...

eddythompson80 · 1h ago
Western YouTubers often say something like this article title whenever they get a large amount of food for a review or something. Rhett and Link say that almost every video.
germinalphrase · 2h ago
Tripwiring (and thus fatally wounding) horses was quite a thing back in the day.
kulahan · 2h ago
Wasn't there some horrible story about the number of animals killed in the filming of Homeward Bound or some similar movie? I simply cannot comprehend the callousness of people towards animals back then. I guess our cultures are simply too different, but it genuinely seems like people saw all animals as "things" until, like, the 1950s or something like that. What the heck?
eurleif · 1h ago
You're probably thinking of Milo and Otis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Milo_and_Oti...
kelseyfrog · 1h ago
We also have "No one was harmed in the making of this video" and similar, which has become so prevalent that its absence is sometime used to infer that someone was indeed injured or killed in the clip.
ern · 1h ago
I've seen clips on Reddit where animals are harmed for engagement. Usually "nature is brutal" type clips, where one animal kills another.

I mean nature is brutal, but typing down an animal to be consumed by another isn't natural.

Anyway, I don't think movies and TV are the main source of animal cruelty anymore.

duxup · 6h ago
I wonder how this plays out.

As noted sometimes the staff can't eat it, heck sometimes you might not want to eat it. That has to happen pretty often.

I worked at a company with a particularly sensitive HR team who would host pizza parties now and then, but they'd only order "weird" pizzas and I guess they liked it, but they were quite miffed when people stopped coming / didn't want to eat some pizza with some kind of fake cheese and unrecognizable veggies.

They were really miffed when my boss ordered our team pizza on their pizza day too, suddenly very concerned about waste...

MarkusWandel · 5h ago
Many years ago, I was on a training course, all typical engineers, and the guy who had organized it, a foodie, had ordered the day's spread from a very expensive and fancy catering place. Skeptical engineers eyeing the spread, which included such things as "cold orange soup"; one of them said "I should have brought my rabbit".

The message was clearly received. Next day and subsequent ones, an equally high quality spread of actual engineer food was tabled. But with no rabbit to eat it up, I think a lot of the first day's spread was wasted.

This was during the pre-2K tech boom years (this dates me!) Really fancy catering at (my) work is a distant memory now.

kulahan · 2h ago
Did Detective Boyle organize this meal?
ianburrell · 34m ago
More places should have compost recycling that includes food waste. That gives food waste somewhere to go that isn't the trash. And it turns yard and food waste into compost so organics stay in the environment.
MisterTea · 6h ago
> didn't want to eat some pizza with some kind of fake cheese and unrecognizable veggies.

What I want to know is what ghastly pizza establishment serves fake cheese and what are mystery veggies?

MarkSweep · 46m ago
Whole Foods is an offender here. They were selling a slice of fresh vegan pizza, which I assumed just had vegetables on it. Instead it had this obscene goopy “vegan cheese” that had more in common with mochi than cheese. (Yes, you can find pizzas with mochi on it in Japan, but they don’t call it cheese!)
zahlman · 4h ago
> what ghastly pizza establishment serves fake cheese

Most of them, I imagine, in order to accommodate vegan customers. Some advertise it louder than others.

> what are mystery veggies?

There's quite a variety out there. I've seen broccoli, sundried tomato, artichoke, spinach....

bigstrat2003 · 44m ago
Vegan cheese is an abomination. Even if one is vegan they shouldn't eat that crap, just eat something else instead. You can make much better vegan food if you focus on trying to make vegetables good versus torturing them into a facsimile of animal products.
Tallain · 2h ago
I don't see how any of these could be considered "mystery" veggies in most contexts, let alone on pizza.
schuyler2d · 2h ago
I'm pretty sure they weren't unrecognizable or mystery and it's just being used as a pejorative for food they didn't like
bondarchuk · 3h ago
Those are very normal weggebobbles for anyone outside the US. Big no-no to vegan cheese though.
shermantanktop · 2h ago
Are they not normal inside the US?
stevage · 2h ago
Eh, I find vegan cheese very variable. I never seek it out but experience it relatively often. Sometimes it's tasty and chewy. Sometimes it's a bland monstrosity. I don't know why.
rkomorn · 2h ago
Vegan feta has the best success rate for me. Unfortunately, feta has limited applications.

(I'm not vegan but I like to try vegan products anyway.)

kulahan · 1h ago
If you haven't make shakshuka yet, it's worth a shot. It's one of my favorite places to use lots and lots of feta. It's not normally vegan since it's topped with an egg, but that's easy enough to remove and forget. Eat it with toasted pita.
duxup · 6h ago
It was from an actually good pizza place that had some wild choices for pizzas.

Inexplicably they didn't order any of the "regular" pizzas from there.

tmtvl · 4h ago
I don't understand why people will have these stupid preconceptions about food which normally you unlearn during childhood. Complaining about food without tasting it is stupid and childish. Of course if you try something and it doesn't suit your tastes then it's fine to complain, but dismissing something offhand because you aren't familiar with it is rather narrow-minded.
alwa · 3h ago
Having tasted it, you’re free to decide it’s not for you. And you’re certainly free to decide that it’s not enough to tempt you to an HR… “party.”
duxup · 3h ago
I choose to eat what I want. It’s that simple.

Im even less interested in others picking interesting things for me when I am busy working.

add-sub-mul-div · 1h ago
Pontificating about a mindset you've never experienced by calling it narrow-minded is the brilliantly subtle satire I come here to see every day.

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schoen · 19m ago
I'd contrast this with the game show "Double Dare".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Dare_(franchise)

I hope the staff didn't eat the food later, as the competitors often had to swim in it or crawl through it. I think it was generally real food, which was occasionally controversial (maybe it would have been more controversial in Japan?).

juancn · 7h ago
It's related to the concept of Mottainai (もったいない, 勿体無い) in Japanese culture. Where any waste is considered bad, specially related to food.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mottainai

decimalenough · 36m ago
This is why when you buy a book about mottainai in a Japanese bookstore, it comes with a detachable cover page, the bookstore gives you a cardboard cover so people can't see what you're reading, then puts the book in a plastic bag with a nice twist on top and then puts the bag in a branded paper bag.

(I'm exaggerating, but only slightly.)

AlienRobot · 7h ago
There is a similar concept in English culture called "waste".
breppp · 6h ago
Doesn't sound as strong due to the lack of tv captions
johnea · 1h ago
Yes, waste is an English cultural concept, especially in the US.

In this concept, waste is viewed as a sign of affluence.

So ironically, the more one wastes the more "conservative" one is considered to be.

Pretty much the opposite of the Japanese concept of mottainai.

justinclift · 6m ago
> In this concept, waste is viewed as a sign of affluence.

Seems pretty dumb. Maybe mostly a US thing?

Hamuko · 7h ago
Any waste as long as it's not plastic. Plastic's a free-for-all. There's really nothing you can't individually plastic wrap. An apple? Wrap it in plastic. A cookie? Plastic. A plastic straw? You can wrap that too.
cwmma · 7h ago
I wonder if this is why they tend to have plastic food displays at restaurant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_model

jkhdigital · 7h ago
I think the plastic food displays are due to high uncertainty avoidance, so patrons can see exactly what their meal looks like before ordering. Yes you could use real food but the hassle of periodically filling the display case with freshly cooked dishes would be silly.
LeifCarrotson · 6h ago
Some American restaurants have real food displays, too. With a chilled display case and limited airflow (and choosing only meals that keep well - avoiding exhibition of garnishes or salads that wilt in hours), you can put the same dessert on display for days.

At the end, of course, you have to throw it away - it might not be safe for staff to eat by the point it's visibly decomposing from 3 feet away. I find that just knowing the food in the case is destined for the garbage to rankle, especially when I'm simultaneously looking at menu prices and wondering why the meal costs so much; it's interesting to learn that the Japanese make those meal displays out of plastic/wax for the same reason.

jerlam · 5h ago
We should have more picture menus where every single menu item has a actual picture of the food served, instead of the guest trying to imagine the food based on often deceptive and flowery text descriptions.
wk_end · 7h ago
Quick and very fussy question I'm hoping someone with native-level Japanese could comment on.

My inclination (as a non-native learner) would be to translate 美味しくいただきました as "the staff enjoyed it later". It's both slightly more formal and elegant-sounding than the comparatively coarse "ate", and captures the pleasure implied by 美味しく ("deliciously"). I would expect plain old "ate" if they used 食べました.

Of course, I'm not a professional translator or native speaker! It’s possible I'm over-indexing on the textbook knowledge I have of the language and in practice, to native Japanese eyes and ears, the things I think I'm seeing aren't really there.

SabrinaJewson · 2h ago
English alternatives like “The staff enjoyed it later” or “The staff had the pleasure of eating it later” I would expect come across more euphemistic than normal to the average English-speaking viewer. So the question is whether the original was intentionally trying to come across euphemistic, or whether the original was using formal/polite language solely because of its position as being on TV.
Pooge · 6h ago
English doesn't have rules as clear cut as Japanese's for politeness—especially nuances! I think it's fine to translate it to "ate".

In turn, I'm not a native English speaker, but in the dictionary I searched in, "enjoy" isn't a synonym of "eat", whereas いただく definitely is—albeit a very polite one[1].

[1]: https://jisho.org/word/%E9%A0%82%E3%81%8F

zahlman · 4h ago
>"enjoy" isn't a synonym of "eat"

It isn't literally, but it takes on this meaning in context. If you "enjoy" ("receive pleasure or satisfaction from; have the use or benefit of" per M-W) food, it's hard to imagine that you did anything else with it (er, let's not explore that here, please).

It's much like how the primary, literal sense of いただく is more like "receive".

zahlman · 4h ago
What you say makes sense for explaining what was meant, but localizers might well simplify this kind of thing (just as they "punch up" other lines) on the basis of the significance of the line in cultural context. Basically, the 美味しく is culturally obligatory here (you'll see similar things in advertising copy), which causes it to lose meaning.
AlienRobot · 7h ago
Not Japanese, but I feel if you translated it that way you would risk people reading the article into assuming the sentence could be used in ways that match the sense of "enjoy" in English that could never match the sense of the word used in Japanese, e.g. the staff enjoyed a movie later.
mbil · 47m ago
When I was a kid, my dad and I were watching a cooking show together. I asked him "what do they do with all the food they make", and then, as if on cue, the host said, "In case you're wondering, the staff eat all the food we make here." My dad and I looked at each other with a silent look of "whoa".
declan_roberts · 1h ago
I read somewhere that there's more English articles on Japanese topics in wikipedia than the entire japanese wikipedia.

Seems to check out true. HN types really seem to love their Japan.

notatoad · 5h ago
this seems to be making its way to western shows as well - when taskmaster has a food based challenge, they often include a reassurance that the food didn't go to waste. and i've seen similar on some youtube shows.

for example: https://youtu.be/_gNZR5IEsAA?si=x5nvoBzC9Xc4fxFs&t=1674

unsignedint · 1h ago
The whole “the staff ate it later” routine is really just a symptom of a broader intolerance in Japanese media. After years of getting complaints over the most innocuous things, Japanese TV shows have started slapping disclaimers on everything, even the most trivial situations.

You see it everywhere: statements like “this is just one of many possible hypotheses” to appease people who might disagree, though to be fair, Western media sometimes include similar disclaimers, or “this was filmed with the owner’s permission” even when it is not really necessary. Then there is the excessive blurring—if someone with even a minor scandal appears, they are edited out or blurred, and a message like “this was recorded on MM-DD” pops up, all to avoid viewers asking, “Why is this person on TV?”

Of course, I understand the need for disclaimers in situations that really warrant them, such as scientific experiments that require proper oversight. But the disclaimers added just to dodge silly complaints do nothing but infantilize viewers, and honestly, they are kind of insulting.

Ultimately, this is part of a bigger problem with Japanese TV. It has dumbed itself down to the lowest common denominator, pandering to the most vocal complainers who often lack basic critical thinking skills. This is not unique to TV, either; Japanese businesses in general have long been hypersensitive to the “customer is always right” mindset. Thankfully, there is some pushback against that now. Still, TV is especially vulnerable since broadcasters get access to public airwaves at relatively low cost and are expected to act like a public utility, making them an easy target for complaints.

Ironically, all of this is helping drive younger generations away from TV, not just as a medium, but because the shows themselves feel less and less relevant.

farceSpherule · 2h ago
If you want the ultimate in "The staff ate it later" watch Steven Raichlen's Project Smoke on PBS. The crew of that show eat like Kings.

https://www.pbs.org/show/steven-raichlens-project-smoke/

butlike · 7h ago
Interesting. Consideration is key; but not above all else. Imagine being one of the staff from the article who felt obligated to finish the food out of some misguided guilt.
shermantanktop · 2h ago
Perhaps they hire special staff members with enormous and undiscriminating appetites.
wiradikusuma · 6h ago
It's the opposite of restaurants, usually they don't let their staff eat leftovers.
valiant55 · 2h ago
I see both sides because you don't want staff intentionally making "mistakes" just to get some food but I worked for almost a decade in restaurants and only McDonald's didnt let you eat the food.
zahlman · 4h ago
From what I've seen, it's totally ordinary for "sandwich artists" to prepare lunch for themselves from the ingredients on display.
0cf8612b2e1e · 5h ago
This must be a high end/low end thing. When I worked at a family diner, it was a free for all on the buffet leftovers which could not be recycled for the following day.
spookie · 5h ago
Restaurant staff usually eats before service, no? At least where I'm from.
rcxdude · 3h ago
And it's usually made from leftovers in the kitchen, as I understand it.
bravetraveler · 6h ago
Instead: a discount for what you unloaded from the frozen truck last week... and just cooked
GuinansEyebrows · 2h ago
depends on how close to the bus/dish position you are. i used to eat leftover tiramisu from the bus tub all the time when i washed dishes at an italian restaurant.

...not that i would do that today, but i was poor, and it was good :)

stmw · 7h ago
I first thought this was going to be a story about big tech company bureaucracy, where the staff ate all the good ideas.
chihuahua · 3h ago
"What happened to the other plutonium core?"

"The staff ate it."

ChrisArchitect · 7h ago
I wish some of these cooking competition reality shows would declare this kind of thing. One recent competition one "Is It Cake?" constantly trucks out these sort of demonstration items where some true wizard behind the scenes is making a ton of lifelike items that the actual contestants have to guess about just to determine their own order/ranking in the competition. I always wonder what happens to all of the cake from just that portion of the show (and some other segments). The 'Kraft services table' in the back much be epic etc
0cf8612b2e1e · 4h ago
I read an interview from the British Baking Show which said that all of the crew knew to keep a spoon in their pocket so they could sample the dishes at the end.
dvh · 7h ago
... and they lived happily ever after

Same thing, no?