Visually amazing. Equal to or better than the best of Pixar.
Narratively, about as on par with the story of Elio, so close to the bottom of the barrel compared to Pixar. It's confusing even to Chinese audiences. It's tonal whiplash would give you a severe concussion if you experienced it in real life. It's basically Minions but with 10000x the toilet humor interspersed with the self-seriousness of B-grade flicks like the Clash of the Titans remake or Gods of Egypt.
mcphage · 1h ago
> Narratively, about as on par with the story of Elio, so close to the bottom of the barrel compared to Pixar.
I didn’t think Elio was one of Pixar’s best, but it was leagues better than Cars 2 or The Good Dinosaur.
PaulHoule · 7h ago
I liked the first movie.
mcphage · 5h ago
I wonder if this is the start of a thriving Chinese movie industry, or an unusually popular one-off like Black Myth: Wukong seems to have been (so far)?
Telaneo · 4h ago
It wouldn't surprise me if this was way past the point of the Chinese film industry thriving, but that the West just hasn't gotten to see the gold it has produced and can produce just yet.
It really wouldn't surprise me if China has made many Pixar-level or Oscar-level films, or shows and books for that matter, and we just haven't gotten to properly see them, since they were never officially dubbed and released outside of China, and it takes quite a lot for the noise to make it outside of China, and China's just been assuming that the world just wasn't that interested in Chinese culture (and were probably proven right by western media never really talking about it; when was the last time you heard about any Chinese film/book/tv show other than this one?), and just didn't bother to even try that much to get it out there. But now that it's out there, and people think it's good, we're probably going to get a lot more of it. Even if most of it's just mediocre, it'll be, if not better than, at least different from the Hollywood stagnation.
diggernet · 3h ago
> when was the last time you heard about any Chinese film/book/tv show other than this one?
Three Body Problem
mcphage · 59m ago
> It wouldn't surprise me if this was way past the point of the Chinese film industry thriving, but that the West just hasn't gotten to see the gold it has produced and can produce just yet.
That’s a good point, I guess by thriving I meant, continuously producing works that are popular outside of the place they were created.
> Even if most of it's just mediocre, it'll be, if not better than, at least different from the Hollywood stagnation.
That’s what I’m hoping, anyway. Disney and Pixar do best when they’ve got competition.
rurban · 4h ago
There was a thriving Chinese movie scene already, based in Hong Kong.
Hollywood needed several decades to break that. It was Shrek eventually.
krapp · 5h ago
I hope so. The world desperately needs to counteract the relentless assault of American cultural imperialism.
Narratively, about as on par with the story of Elio, so close to the bottom of the barrel compared to Pixar. It's confusing even to Chinese audiences. It's tonal whiplash would give you a severe concussion if you experienced it in real life. It's basically Minions but with 10000x the toilet humor interspersed with the self-seriousness of B-grade flicks like the Clash of the Titans remake or Gods of Egypt.
I didn’t think Elio was one of Pixar’s best, but it was leagues better than Cars 2 or The Good Dinosaur.
It really wouldn't surprise me if China has made many Pixar-level or Oscar-level films, or shows and books for that matter, and we just haven't gotten to properly see them, since they were never officially dubbed and released outside of China, and it takes quite a lot for the noise to make it outside of China, and China's just been assuming that the world just wasn't that interested in Chinese culture (and were probably proven right by western media never really talking about it; when was the last time you heard about any Chinese film/book/tv show other than this one?), and just didn't bother to even try that much to get it out there. But now that it's out there, and people think it's good, we're probably going to get a lot more of it. Even if most of it's just mediocre, it'll be, if not better than, at least different from the Hollywood stagnation.
Three Body Problem
That’s a good point, I guess by thriving I meant, continuously producing works that are popular outside of the place they were created.
> Even if most of it's just mediocre, it'll be, if not better than, at least different from the Hollywood stagnation.
That’s what I’m hoping, anyway. Disney and Pixar do best when they’ve got competition.
Hollywood needed several decades to break that. It was Shrek eventually.