Im an outside observer who follows. The answer is no. Its literally a psychology trick being used. the polarization started in 2009, well measured and studied.
> it’s hard to miss how emotional the whole enterprise has become in recent decades.
It started in 2009. Not decades plural. The USA and democrats will now eat their politics until the identity politics is dropped.
>ccording to partisan chatter, the act is either the “MAGA murder bill” that is literally a “death sentence for thousands of Americans,”
This started with the "clinton crazies" the republicans who went crazy anti-bill clinton. Then bush derangement and obama derangement.
What trump did is weaponize this. He's taking full advantage of this.
Literally playing into his hand.
Better yet, it seems to me the democrats are literally being led into the trap and they are willingly jumping into the trap.
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techpineapple · 1d ago
I do wonder what it will take to get us out of the current extreme polarization. A civil war? An external threat?
But one thing I notice about arguing online is that people are unable to compartamentalize their values and their practical perspectives.
I’m not bragging, just observing (and I’m sure there are tradeoffs). I can hate Trump with the fire of a thousand suns, but also think about his policies independent of that. Part of the reason I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns is because of his policies!
But when he makes the decision to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities, I can still weigh the pros and cons. In general I’m more interested in truth and understanding than judging, but also, when I empathize with someone and truly understand where they are coming from.. sometimes I hate them more! The point is I don’t feel like saying policy A was a good decision is me also saying “maybe I was wrong to hate this Trump guy”
I mean, maybe I was wrong, but I certainly don’t have to have been.
And I think the point is, I don’t consider the weighing of the decisions of the Trump administration as referendum on his character, those can be relatively compartamentalized thins, and I think that’s what allows me to be a bit more objective about the actions, and not see everything Trump does as auto-bad.
ferguess_k · 1d ago
I think whence things go into maelstrom mode, we just have to sit tight until the whole episode dies. It's not going to end very well judging by taking a look of history, but hopefully most people still live through. I recently got my ham radio certificate and is on the way to be more prep-minded -- definitely not the extreme type, but my plan includes getting a long weapon license, learning camping and fishing, as well as purchasing backup water/food and some legal weapons.
> it’s hard to miss how emotional the whole enterprise has become in recent decades.
It started in 2009. Not decades plural. The USA and democrats will now eat their politics until the identity politics is dropped.
>ccording to partisan chatter, the act is either the “MAGA murder bill” that is literally a “death sentence for thousands of Americans,”
This started with the "clinton crazies" the republicans who went crazy anti-bill clinton. Then bush derangement and obama derangement.
What trump did is weaponize this. He's taking full advantage of this.
Literally playing into his hand.
Better yet, it seems to me the democrats are literally being led into the trap and they are willingly jumping into the trap.
No comments yet
But one thing I notice about arguing online is that people are unable to compartamentalize their values and their practical perspectives.
I’m not bragging, just observing (and I’m sure there are tradeoffs). I can hate Trump with the fire of a thousand suns, but also think about his policies independent of that. Part of the reason I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns is because of his policies!
But when he makes the decision to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities, I can still weigh the pros and cons. In general I’m more interested in truth and understanding than judging, but also, when I empathize with someone and truly understand where they are coming from.. sometimes I hate them more! The point is I don’t feel like saying policy A was a good decision is me also saying “maybe I was wrong to hate this Trump guy”
I mean, maybe I was wrong, but I certainly don’t have to have been.
And I think the point is, I don’t consider the weighing of the decisions of the Trump administration as referendum on his character, those can be relatively compartamentalized thins, and I think that’s what allows me to be a bit more objective about the actions, and not see everything Trump does as auto-bad.