The submitter editorialized the title to add scare quotes; the actual title is "Andrew Cuomo says Zohran Mamdani won NYC Democratic primary for mayor – live updates"
Also, it's a live updates page, not the greatest link.
sandspar · 9h ago
Curiously the BBC also used quotes around "won".
>In a speech to supporters, Cuomo said Mamdani - a 33-year-old democratic socialist - had "won" the primary race and that "we are going to take a look and make some decisions".
Perhaps there's a reasonable explanation. I think news agencies are using the quotes because a) it's a close race and counting will continue next week, and b) Cuomo may have been referring to the primary race but not to the general election.
From the BBC:
>In an interview with the New York Times, Cuomo said he was still examining whether he would run in the general election in November on the independent line.
>"I said he won the primary election," Cuomo told the outlet. "I said I wanted to look at the numbers and the ranked-choice voting to decide about what to do in the future, because I'm also on an independent line."
I haven't been following the race but maybe this is why the news agencies are using quotes around won. Unless any other commenters know a better reason?
The primary is ranked choice, so no candidate will win until they have over 50% of the votes. Since neither has that now, there will be a series of rounds of distributing choices to candidates. Cuomo is basically saying “he will probably win” based on the sizable lead Mamdani has, but it’s not technically over yet.
dragonwriter · 8h ago
> Curiously the BBC also used quotes around "won".
Journalistically, that can be appropriate to indicate that that word was used by Cuomo; distinguishing direct quotation from paraphrase or interpretation of intent.
OTOH, on HN, the policy is to use the source headline unless there is a strong reason not to, using a paraphrase of a bullet point in the article-top summary is dubious, even if that bullet point is the main reason the poster was inspired to post the link.
hackyhacky · 8h ago
I'm the submitter. I used the verbatim source headline at the time of posting. Since then, the source headline has been changed.
Also, it's a live updates page, not the greatest link.
>In a speech to supporters, Cuomo said Mamdani - a 33-year-old democratic socialist - had "won" the primary race and that "we are going to take a look and make some decisions".
Perhaps there's a reasonable explanation. I think news agencies are using the quotes because a) it's a close race and counting will continue next week, and b) Cuomo may have been referring to the primary race but not to the general election.
From the BBC:
>In an interview with the New York Times, Cuomo said he was still examining whether he would run in the general election in November on the independent line.
>"I said he won the primary election," Cuomo told the outlet. "I said I wanted to look at the numbers and the ranked-choice voting to decide about what to do in the future, because I'm also on an independent line."
I haven't been following the race but maybe this is why the news agencies are using quotes around won. Unless any other commenters know a better reason?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg6yg7x467o
Journalistically, that can be appropriate to indicate that that word was used by Cuomo; distinguishing direct quotation from paraphrase or interpretation of intent.
OTOH, on HN, the policy is to use the source headline unless there is a strong reason not to, using a paraphrase of a bullet point in the article-top summary is dubious, even if that bullet point is the main reason the poster was inspired to post the link.