Why is this flagged? Uncomfortable point of view for Israel?
bigyabai · 3h ago
HN's "technical types" are very sensitive towards criticism of their most lucrative customer.
foxyv · 8h ago
I get the impression that Israel is making bloody hay while the sun shines. They have an extremely favorable political climate to engage in some extreme military actions. Russia's stalled invasion of Ukraine and the election of Donald Trump have pretty much ensured that they will not have to deal with blowback from their aggression.
They don't have to worry about sanctions from the USA led coalition. The don't have to worry about Russian reinforcement of Iran. So they pretty much have a free hand at this point to completely demolish Iran's military and nuclear capability.
It's amazing how many factors lead to situations like this. The current geopolitical climate is total chaos.
selivanovp · 8h ago
That's exactly what's going on. Bibi just uses a window of opportunity and forces USA to join in an attempt to regime change in Iran.
ty6853 · 8h ago
It's not clear to me why the USA would join forces with Israel instead of Iran. Iran arguably is better geopolitically positioned and an alliance with Iran would buy the US much more of the ME.
It would be quite rational if the US simply betrayed the IDF once they overextend themselves in the incursion.
akaisoaooaN · 7h ago
Nothing about the US Middle East policy makes sense until you see how much control Zionists have over the US government. Since the Balfour declaration almost nothing we’ve done in the region has been to America’s benefit (though plenty to Israel’s).
We could simply stop giving them billions in aid and open talks with the remaining Arab / Muslim states. The Israelis have nukes that they shouldn’t have, but that would be an easy enough problem to unite the world around.
In reality, the US will play a key role in removing the last major Arab / Muslim player in the region (like they have for all the others) and more or less realize the Likudnik’s stated goals from the 80s.
pinewurst · 7h ago
Iranians are proudly not Arabs.
dragonwriter · 7h ago
“Arab / Muslim states” is a clear attempt to craft a concise label that includes the states that are both Arab & Islamic, Lebanon which is Arab and explicitly multiconfessional, and Iran which explictly Islamic and very much not Arab, and also very clearly crafted by someone unfamiliar with the proper usage of Muslim (noun for a person who is a follower of Islam) and Islamic (adjective modifying a noun to indicated that it is associated in some way with Islam.)
akaisoaooaN · 6h ago
The label is entirely separate from my point and apologies for the generalization. Middle eastern counties would have avoided all this and stuck to my original point. Neighboring enemies of Israel is probably the most correct description in that regard.
pinewurst · 7h ago
The original comment before edit was simply “Arab” sans slash.
tguvot · 7h ago
a lot of Lebanese consider themself phoenicians
weatherlite · 5h ago
> It's not clear to me why the USA would join forces with Israel instead of Iran. Iran arguably is better geopolitically positioned and an alliance with Iran would buy the US much more of the ME
Sure, the U.S can also join forces with Russia and dump Ukraine . Why not ?
ty6853 · 4h ago
One thing is for certain, it's not because the US is a reliable ally nor because they have strong morals in international policy.
foxyv · 3h ago
America has a history of anti-Muslim rhetoric. Before September 11th, it was a part of the country but not part of the core American identity. Since then it has become a defining characteristic of our politics.
jalapeno_a · 7h ago
Look up the US Cabinet on Wikipedia, look at their Early Life, at any given time the White House is about 1/3 Jewish
tguvot · 7h ago
everybody in the neighborhood hates the guts of the iran. iran was major sponsor of terrorism in the middle east for past 40 years and blackmails entire middle east
this is what you call "better geopolitically positioned" ?
IAmBroom · 6h ago
Yeah, I don't live in a slice of the multiverse where Iran is trustworthy in any sense. I'm no fan of Israel's government, but Iran is ground zero for terrorism training worldwide.
tguvot · 5h ago
based on the downvotes looks like you and downvoters live in a different universes
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karmakurtisaani · 5h ago
All of the recent geopolitical events really drive home one conclusion: Trump is an incredibly weak president, entirely controlled by non-US interests on international matters. Furthermore, actions that can be credited as his own also mainly just hurt the US and its allies.
tguvot · 7h ago
it was always said that attack on the iran will lead to a regional war, as iran will activate it proxies: hamas, hezbollah, houthis, various militias in iraq. maybe syria.
now all those pieces are mostly out of the game and the major factor that led to this is October 7th attack on Israel.
prmph · 4h ago
October 7th is looking more and more like a disastrous move by Israel's enemies.
Sounds like every time Israel enemies attack it they end up losing more ground, and yet they never stop to try another way. They handed Israel the perfect pretext for devastating blows.
ponector · 2h ago
Is it the same source of US intel which said Kyiv would fall within couple days if russia launched a full scale invasion?
cosmicgadget · 2h ago
Are you saying they wouldn't have if the warnings were not heeded? It was the Kremlin's plan.
cosmicgadget · 2h ago
Trump: Netanyahu wants me to say they have it.
Gabbard: Putin wants me to say they don't.
bigyabai · 8h ago
And... is this nuclear weapon in the room with us, right now?
slater · 7h ago
Who's got that chart with Israeli gov't "They're [2,3,4] years away!!!" statements from the last ~40 years
They do what they want, they were selected by God, chapter 3 paragraph 4.
vdupras · 9h ago
Quick, get Colin Powell in here to show us where the WMD are at!
ty6853 · 8h ago
The first casualty of war is truth.
It's state secrets all the way down. None of us plebs know what is happening deep in Fordo. Similar strategy was employed when the US went after Saddam, and it will work again whether they are arguing the evidence is one way or the other.
They don't have to worry about sanctions from the USA led coalition. The don't have to worry about Russian reinforcement of Iran. So they pretty much have a free hand at this point to completely demolish Iran's military and nuclear capability.
It's amazing how many factors lead to situations like this. The current geopolitical climate is total chaos.
It would be quite rational if the US simply betrayed the IDF once they overextend themselves in the incursion.
We could simply stop giving them billions in aid and open talks with the remaining Arab / Muslim states. The Israelis have nukes that they shouldn’t have, but that would be an easy enough problem to unite the world around.
In reality, the US will play a key role in removing the last major Arab / Muslim player in the region (like they have for all the others) and more or less realize the Likudnik’s stated goals from the 80s.
Sure, the U.S can also join forces with Russia and dump Ukraine . Why not ?
this is what you call "better geopolitically positioned" ?
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now all those pieces are mostly out of the game and the major factor that led to this is October 7th attack on Israel.
Sounds like every time Israel enemies attack it they end up losing more ground, and yet they never stop to try another way. They handed Israel the perfect pretext for devastating blows.
Gabbard: Putin wants me to say they don't.
edit: Here we go: https://i.imgur.com/3vIr5dE.png (I have not verified the accuracy tho)
It's state secrets all the way down. None of us plebs know what is happening deep in Fordo. Similar strategy was employed when the US went after Saddam, and it will work again whether they are arguing the evidence is one way or the other.