I commend the whole of the ICC for continuing to work under these conditions. They are an important part of the international system.
It isn't lost on me that the US, which has imposed these sanctions on the ICC, is an accessory to this specific alleged crime as the US has provided the financing and the weapons: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts
EDIT: And poof this is gone from the front-page to item #93.
DowsingSpoon · 12h ago
There’s no need to be conspiratorial. It was #15 for me, two hours after your comment. The post hasn’t been memory-holed, or anything like that.
bhouston · 5h ago
It seems to have been removed from the front page twice.
Corrupt people like Khan inadvertently give Netanyahu legitimacy and hurt the voices within Israel that are trying to stop him. Biased reporting like the BBC is responsible is a huge part of the problem.
orwin · 6h ago
I'm sorry but why? War crimes are war crimes. Raping prisoners is raping prisoners, being right or left has nothing to do with it.
ICC investigation are needed to see if there is any substance to the allegations, whoever the prosecution is, and why would be left-leaning or right-leaning influence it?
If state/billionaire propaganda use it as propaganda props, that's not the props fault, and they would use other perceived slights instead.
invalidname · 6h ago
The claim of war crimes is unverified and deeply one sided decided by a court presided by a country that was literally firing missiles at Israel at the time.
> Raping prisoners
This was contested. There was an assault that was illegal and included a sexual incident (although was not intended as such). It's terrible, sure and it's on trial right now. That has nothing to do with what I said. You're trying to turn the conversation into something else instead of focusing on the facts.
The fact is that you're strengthening one zero sum player (Hamas), which works against Palestinians. This doesn't strengthen Palestinians in any way. On the contrary, it forces them into conflict with Israel which isn't good for anyone.
This is a strategy of chaos agents in a world where two zero sum players are in conflict. The right strategy is to calm things and support the centrists without strengthening these a*holes. It isn't about Israel, it's about the terrible government Israel has right now. This isn't about Palestinians, it's about Hamas.
lmz · 14h ago
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. You all probably cheered when the US's power was used against Russia.
unsnap_biceps · 13h ago
Sanctions are an alternative for armed conflict. Would you prefer countries start with armed conflict rather than economic?
lmz · 13h ago
No, but those who cheered when the US's control of global trade was employed against Russia should have a long think about what that control can do against them.
hulitu · 6h ago
The mind of most politicians does not reach further than the money of the lobbyist at the entrance door.
It isn't lost on me that the US, which has imposed these sanctions on the ICC, is an accessory to this specific alleged crime as the US has provided the financing and the weapons: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts
EDIT: And poof this is gone from the front-page to item #93.
I think that happens if people flag it.
which also mentions the abuse accusations against him.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Antibds_laws.png
Justice was served. Maybe he learned his lesson. /s
Corrupt people like Khan inadvertently give Netanyahu legitimacy and hurt the voices within Israel that are trying to stop him. Biased reporting like the BBC is responsible is a huge part of the problem.
ICC investigation are needed to see if there is any substance to the allegations, whoever the prosecution is, and why would be left-leaning or right-leaning influence it?
If state/billionaire propaganda use it as propaganda props, that's not the props fault, and they would use other perceived slights instead.
> Raping prisoners
This was contested. There was an assault that was illegal and included a sexual incident (although was not intended as such). It's terrible, sure and it's on trial right now. That has nothing to do with what I said. You're trying to turn the conversation into something else instead of focusing on the facts.
The fact is that you're strengthening one zero sum player (Hamas), which works against Palestinians. This doesn't strengthen Palestinians in any way. On the contrary, it forces them into conflict with Israel which isn't good for anyone.
This is a strategy of chaos agents in a world where two zero sum players are in conflict. The right strategy is to calm things and support the centrists without strengthening these a*holes. It isn't about Israel, it's about the terrible government Israel has right now. This isn't about Palestinians, it's about Hamas.