That’s one way to push generally law abiding, tax paying people into the black market where they won’t pay taxes, and have a higher likelihood of dabbling in criminal enterprise.
delusional · 4m ago
Republicans would argue they are already dabbling in "criminal enterprise" by having trouble with ICE. You might then argue that "but they haven't been convicted" which is true, but you also know the republicans don't agree with that either.
behringer · 5m ago
Perfect way to fill up the for-profit prisons and get that unpaid workforce that will replace all the migrants.
jeffbee · 5m ago
Honestly why are any of us paying taxes? The probability of future IRS enforcement has never been lower than it is right now.
kevingadd · 2m ago
Beyond that, as we gradually slide towards having zero political representation and near-zero actual human rights, it becomes more and more questionable what we're getting for our tax dollars. The contract between the taxpayer and the government is being eroded.
epoxia · 2m ago
I would recommend reading Extreme Privacy by Michael Bazzell if these types of thing concern you. A relevant passage:
"First, I would never provide my home address on any application or W-9 form. This should only be your PO Box, UPS Box, or PMB address. Your employer likely does not care much about where you live, unless the job has residency requirements, such as a police officer. The IRS does not object to the use of a mail box address. They just want their money."
duxup · 10s ago
This feels like one of those bits of security tips / infotainment that IRL provides no value.
kevingadd · 1m ago
Does this work in practice? Historically my actual residence is needed for tax reasons, i.e. properly tracking what state I owe income tax in for cash compensation and stock options.
xnx · 5m ago
Worth reminding that the ICE budget is expanding to $28 billion. This is bigger than the budget of the FBI and DEA combined.
ICE just seems to be a setup for "federal personal thugs".
We've seen them now threatening not just American citizens, other politicians, judges. ICE has been given instructions to simply go operate on their own without direction to "find" people.
The laws surroundings them are surprisingly forgiving / people have few protections. This step seems to just be to dump vast quantities of data they could just for anything they wish from departments that had rules for how they can use that data ... to a group that has few rules ...
sneak · 6m ago
They regularly imprison people for days, weeks, or months without trial that they know are US citizens.
wnevets · 13m ago
Is this why Elon killed the free direct tax filing?
kevingadd · 17s ago
IIRC the free tax filing thing being killed is just classic lobbying, the owners of Intuit and other paid tax filing companies have myriad political connections and spend a lot of money to protect their interests.
"First, I would never provide my home address on any application or W-9 form. This should only be your PO Box, UPS Box, or PMB address. Your employer likely does not care much about where you live, unless the job has residency requirements, such as a police officer. The IRS does not object to the use of a mail box address. They just want their money."
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/12/us/politics/ice-expansion...
We've seen them now threatening not just American citizens, other politicians, judges. ICE has been given instructions to simply go operate on their own without direction to "find" people.
The laws surroundings them are surprisingly forgiving / people have few protections. This step seems to just be to dump vast quantities of data they could just for anything they wish from departments that had rules for how they can use that data ... to a group that has few rules ...