That one is flagged. Do you have the ability to merge threads?
hollywood_court · 36m ago
Why is this post being flagged?
jmuguy · 51m ago
I have this theory that one easy way to curry favor with Trump is tell him about some previously esoteric/unused power the executive has. So much of what he does seems to just be because he can do it, and not because it actually has a real goal or purpose. Like a kid playing with toys. I realize he says that tariffs are meant to bring in revenue or increase domestic manufacturing or [pick random reason]. Or that he's doing this due to DC apparently turning into Fallujah but looking back over his first term and now this one, its the same pattern.
DC out of control crime ?? He should look at Mobile AL, but we all know facts mean nothing to him.
zug_zug · 1h ago
He'll do anything to distract from epstein.
sugarpimpdorsey · 1h ago
Most amazing about this story is the coordinated disinfo campaign by the media who keep repeating "it's the lowest in 30 years!" (when it was the absolute worst in the country) but never disclose the raw numbers.
DC is at 99 homicides so far in 2025. [1]
In reality, numbers are down from "downright terrible" to a historical 30 year low of "really bad".
However Newsweek helpfully points out that (giant) Texas has more violent crimes total (raw occurrences) per year than (comparatively tiny) DC.
I agree that it would be misleading to judge D.C. based on being at a 30 year low. Of the cities with the highest homicide rates, only Philadelphia has a higher population. It's fair to say that there are other cities close in population. But it's clear that D.C. has a abnormally high homicide rate when compared to all of the other U.S. cities of its size or larger.
jeffbee · 11m ago
Just to be consistent with my sibling comment: it is improper to conclude that St. Louis is the most murdery place in America. The city of St. Louis metro population is 3 million people, who travel to the city proper to murder each other even though only 280k people live in those political boundaries.
Well, that press release was issued Jan 3 2025 by the incumbent appointed by the Biden regime. Whichever way you want to argue it... it's political.
The wikipedia article about then-US Attorney for DC includes this note:
"Under Graves, the US Attorney's Office declined to prosecute 67% of those arrested for crimes in DC in 2022, including 72% of misdemeanor arrests and 53% of felony arrests."
Crime is always down if you don't prosecute crime. Murder stats are the best to consider since those a harder (but not impossible) to fudge.
I like how down in the comments you attack absolute numbers despite using absolute numbers in this post, but fail to note per capita numbers because per capita numbers would make this argument fall apart. Good luck with your campaign to make it look reasonable for a federal takeover of crime enforcement as a prelude to shutting down demonstrations against this administration.
anigbrowl · 1h ago
National crime levels are at 30 year lows. I think you're being rather disingenuous here. Media coverage on DC specifically seems entirely reasonable and the first report I looked at linked to the same stats you did.
And you'll see that Washington D.C. doesn't make the top ten for rates of any of the major violent crimes (murder, rape, etc.) nor for the "Total" violent crime.
kstrauser · 52m ago
It doesn't, at all. It's born from the same complaint that, say, NYC outvotes the rest of the state although it's only a tiny portion of the total size.
insane_dreamer · 35m ago
Land area doesn’t matter
Population does matter somewhat but not really in this case. If you’re invading a city because crime is high it only makes sense to do if it’s high in absolute numbers; otherwise you’re not really having much impact.
Also half of DC actually lives in MD and VA.
jeffbee · 41m ago
One of the biggest errors in the interpretation of crime statistics is improperly using the overnight resident population, instead of the better daytime population, as the denominator. This error is often committed in cases as various as St. Louis and Berkeley, as well as DC.
exe34 · 46m ago
Could you say a few words on the impact of land area to the discussion?
Once you concede on that, could you say what homicide level requires a police state as a reaction? It would appear to be within a factor of two of the present numbers, but I can't work out where the line would be.
It was never a problem before when any minorities were victims of the same types of crime.
As the fact goes: There must be people who the law protects but does not bind, and people the law binds but does not protect.
DC is at 99 homicides so far in 2025. [1]
In reality, numbers are down from "downright terrible" to a historical 30 year low of "really bad".
However Newsweek helpfully points out that (giant) Texas has more violent crimes total (raw occurrences) per year than (comparatively tiny) DC.
[1] https://mpdc.dc.gov/dailycrime
The pace of muders in DC this year should put it somewhere around the mid 1960's numbers of around 150: https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/dccrime.htm
So... there are the raw numbers. Want to adjust your position on that "disinfo campaign?"
I agree that it would be misleading to judge D.C. based on being at a 30 year low. Of the cities with the highest homicide rates, only Philadelphia has a higher population. It's fair to say that there are other cities close in population. But it's clear that D.C. has a abnormally high homicide rate when compared to all of the other U.S. cities of its size or larger.
The wikipedia article about then-US Attorney for DC includes this note:
"Under Graves, the US Attorney's Office declined to prosecute 67% of those arrested for crimes in DC in 2022, including 72% of misdemeanor arrests and 53% of felony arrests."
Crime is always down if you don't prosecute crime. Murder stats are the best to consider since those a harder (but not impossible) to fudge.
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_M._Graves
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-crime-trends-trump-national-g...
You can't lie with numbers that are easily provable.
Climate change would like a word with you.
When you can draw arbitrary borders, you can make the numbers mean whatever you want.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...
And you'll see that Washington D.C. doesn't make the top ten for rates of any of the major violent crimes (murder, rape, etc.) nor for the "Total" violent crime.
Population does matter somewhat but not really in this case. If you’re invading a city because crime is high it only makes sense to do if it’s high in absolute numbers; otherwise you’re not really having much impact.
Also half of DC actually lives in MD and VA.
Once you concede on that, could you say what homicide level requires a police state as a reaction? It would appear to be within a factor of two of the present numbers, but I can't work out where the line would be.