I don't trust anyone who sees the output of current generation of LLMs and thinks "I want that to be agentic!". It can be immensely useful, but it's only useful when it manages to make your own brain work more, not less.
falcor84 · 41m ago
As I see it, all of civilization is built on top of this "laziness" principle of "I'm tired of having to deal with X, how can I sort X so that I don't need to think about it anymore, and can instead focus on Y". I'm general, people want their brain to work on other stuff, not what's currently in front of them.
Topfi · 3h ago
ChatGPT agent has now been made available in the EU and all other supported countries and territories for Pro, Plus, Team, Enterprise, and Edu plans, as was to be expected [0].
> I have it available already for one or two weeks.
I think I've had it available with the separate website ("research preview"?) for months, but yeah, last few weeks it's been directly in ChatGPT.com, and I'm within the EU.
bl0rg · 3h ago
What did you try to use it for? But I agree, it feels kinda beta at the moment.
FergusArgyll · 12m ago
I've been trying to find a good use case for it, I got one that I was happy with [0] but, yeah, it's not perfect
Can someone explain to me in simple terms what an agent is?
Is for example Google’s crawl bot an agent?
Is there a prominent successful agent that I could test myself?
So many questions…
QuadmasterXLII · 28m ago
Agent originally meant an ai that made decisions to optimize some utility function. This was seen as a problem: we don’t know how to pick a good utility function or even how to point an ai at a specific utility function, so any agent that was smarter than us was as likely as not to turn us all into paperclips, or carve smiles into our faces, or some other grim outcome.
With LLMs, this went through two phases of shittifaction: first, there was a window where the safety people were hopeful about LLMs because the weren’t agents, so everyone and their mother declared that they would create an agent out if an LLM explicitly because they heard it was dangerous.
This pleased the VCs.
Second, they failed to satisfy the original definition, so they changed the definition of agent to the thing that they made and declared victory. This pleased the VCs
Mordisquitos · 1m ago
In other words, VC-backed tech companies decided to weaken the definition of 'Torment Nexus' after they failed to create the Torment Nexus inspired by the classic sci-fi novel 'Don't Create the Torment Nexus'.
bognition · 49m ago
Think of an agent as a standalone script or service. They have a single function take inputs and create outputs.
You can chain agents together into a string to accomplish larger tasks.
Think of everything involved in booking travel. You have set a budget, pick dates, chose a destinations, etc…. Each step can be defined as an agent and then you chain them together into a tool that handles the entire task for you.
LPisGood · 1h ago
The way everyone is using the term lately is to refer to an LLM that can use one or more tools, calculators, search engines, etc
koakuma-chan · 43m ago
An agent in this context is simply an LLM that has tools.
XenophileJKO · 8m ago
There is an additional component. The LLM needs to determine when to use a tool and be capable of using more than one tool instance per logical task.
diggan · 6m ago
That's pretty much implicit when someone says "LLM that has tools" (what they mean between the lines is "A LLM that been trained to do tool calling, and used with a runner that can parse whatever tool calling/response format the model is trained for"), what would they refer to otherwise? Just that there is a list of tools but the LLM isn't even considering using them, or can only use one?
thrance · 32m ago
A marketing buzzword for when you have multiple prompts.
kaoD · 2h ago
If I reject cookies the page instant goes to "UH OH. SOMETHING WENT WRONG."
What is ChatGPT Agent?
tempodox · 2h ago
Allergic to cookie denials. Fits with the fact that GPT-5 demands biometric ID from users.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44596320
Tried it once and it really sucked.
I think I've had it available with the separate website ("research preview"?) for months, but yeah, last few weeks it's been directly in ChatGPT.com, and I'm within the EU.
[0] https://chatgpt.com/share/68953a55-c5d8-8003-a817-663f565c6f...
Is for example Google’s crawl bot an agent?
Is there a prominent successful agent that I could test myself?
So many questions…
With LLMs, this went through two phases of shittifaction: first, there was a window where the safety people were hopeful about LLMs because the weren’t agents, so everyone and their mother declared that they would create an agent out if an LLM explicitly because they heard it was dangerous.
This pleased the VCs.
Second, they failed to satisfy the original definition, so they changed the definition of agent to the thing that they made and declared victory. This pleased the VCs
You can chain agents together into a string to accomplish larger tasks.
Think of everything involved in booking travel. You have set a budget, pick dates, chose a destinations, etc…. Each step can be defined as an agent and then you chain them together into a tool that handles the entire task for you.
What is ChatGPT Agent?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44837367
Just give us the API and stop trying OpenAI.
Can’t say much about the usage as I haven’t tried it yet.