Tell HN: Meta developer account suspended
146 ArthurVL1 66 6/24/2025, 6:04:21 AM
Hi all, my Meta developer account was suddenly restricted without warning, and there’s no way to appeal or reach support. I believe this may have been triggered by a location (read, IP address) change: I’m a student-entrepreneur who recently moved from China to Kenya for school holidays.
I’m building a WhatsApp-based accounting tool for African small businesses, and this restriction is blocking critical operations. I’ve come across others facing the same issue, with no review option or clear reason: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhatsappBusinessAPI/comments/1kvolv...
https://www.reddit.com/r/facebook/comments/1h1c79w/developer...
Some of the people in these posts were able to contact Meta support, but it seems like Meta has disabled direct support chats.
Thanks in advance.
The real customer service for any Meta-related service is their legal department.
I've worked for a marketing firm whose clients (High End Fashion Industry in EU) were very prone to straddling the line regarding the Instagram ToS. If an account was disabled by some automatic trigger the lawyers would write/fax Meta asking for the account restoration, usually with no fuss on their side.
As you may guess, it wasn't exactly cheap. No idea if a lawyer may do something like that for you inexpensively or pro-bono given the nature of your app.
I am curious, is there something in there that legally binds them to restore an account automatically disabled? I was under the impression that, since Instagram is a free service offered by a non-state company, they are not legally obligated to keep any account opened. What would the lawyers sue Meta for? As I understand it, if you build a business on instagram and your account gets deleted/disabled for whatever reason, you have no grounds to sue Meta
But verification is only available if you're "notable", whatever that means. Definitely not for us small businesses.
Of course, I have no idea if any of that is applicable to the legislation where currently the OP resides.
My Google maps account was blocked also when traveling, but fortunately after several weeks I was able to get that one back.
With Instagram though I just had to make a new account. I also have a Meta Business account (business.facebook.com) and the Instagram account was linked there. The Facebook business account, pages were never blocked though, just the Instagram one.
Unfortunately after a few months I just had to accept it and make a new account. I hope you have more luck, but I assume it's the same with any Meta products. There is no support you can contact, no way to get redress. If it's possible, try to avoid using Meta products to build anything. I understand that's not always possible though, I run a bakery and absolutely must have both Google Maps and Instagram, much as I wish I didn't.
What is a "Google maps account"? I have a Google account, which I use with their various services.
Edit: and note, I log into both of these via my personal Google account, which is also a different thing.
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This is a great lesson on the fragility of building businesses on private, centralized, and proprietary platforms.
It is a lesson I wish I learned a lot earlier in my career.
Unless you live in the EU. [1]
[1] https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/dsa-out-co...
The only winning move for users is to invest in decentralized open source unkillable alternatives.
To me it is obvious they had more than enough time and opportunity to do it properly themselves and the tools at their disposal get more glorious every year. Users grow more and more dependent on them. Services control more of our lives.
They have LLM's now! Really good ones! So good they can format and sort 90% of the customer service issues into well known boxes.
You can also have people pay for support. 1000 euro might be nothing compared to losing an account. Write me a nice report what exactly went wrong. It can be [] my fault [] their fault. It can result in [] permanently banned [] account restored. They can [] refund the fee [] ask for ____ more money.
They thought themselves to important to do it themselves. You are unworthy of even the worse kangaroo court and unworthy of trial by robot. Those are pretty damn low standards.
It will eventually happen because we have lots of wealthy influential people in the global law apparatus and they are really being mocked here.
Mega corps are going for the heaviest punishment they can apply for all possible offenses they chose not to describe. LOL You aren't sentenced to death only because they lack the means to do it but I'm sure they are killing plenty of people indirectly.
I even think out taxes should pay for their customer service.
Is that the easiest choice? Hell no. But it makes us a lot harder to kill, and is great for morale.
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You actually can lead a productive socially rich life and even run a tech company in the modern world without using any products by Google, Microsoft, Meta, Apple, etc.
There are open source alternatives to everything if we do research beyond what is advertised to us.
But now the tariff gun has been fired there is little incentive not to make the digital global markets a level playing field - enforce open interoperability, reduce the cost of App Stores and so on - something that would enable a small entrepreneur in Kenya to build on top of a global spanning utility platform without fear or favour
I know someone who got suspended every day at 9 am for 50 to 70 days in a row. Every time there was a message with an appeal button. A few hours later everything was back to normal. Eventually the message didn't arrive. >the end<
There was also an alternative option to solve an issue with a product listing. There is no way to skip that if you don't have any listings.
Most interesting part were the days without any other activity on the account besides the ban/unban ritual.
They just made a new account and continued to but and sell similarly, no issues for over a year.
The trigger is not in the data(!)
I understand the spirit of this post but this makes it sound like HN is FAANG's support forum. Maybe as a last resort it is, but too on the nose for me.
My (former) personal account was instabanned twice for simply browsing the 2FA page during the Meta hiring process. It turned out I had a zombie FB account that I'd prefer to have obliterated because I didn't have access to the email it was associated with any longer, e.g., @stanford.edu, and that was tripping the "one FB account per human" rule.
MPK emitted a not-so-subtle, semi snob culture, for sure. I guess it got worse[?.]
As in most organizations, the genuine cool people and the genuine coolness of the culture gradually evaporates is replaced with an uncool simulacra.
Microkitchen selection and quality went down a lot, and I hear it's not great these days.
Opines for the sea of VMware Palo Alto micro/kitchen snack shelves c. 2011.
PS PSA: Anyone interviewing on-site somewhere for partial WfH or complete RTO, evaluating their snacks should be high on the list because it sends signals like they're cheap/adequate, considerate/not, and boring/awesome. Not exactly a "brown M&Ms" signal, but close.
On top of providing a better developer experience compared to Meta's ultra-locked and limited APIs, they aren't subject to the whims of a giant faceless company that can kill your product for no apparent reason with no chances of appeal.
Especially if you're doing these projects for folks in the developing world. Let's not lock them in proprietary American spyware like the whole West has already done :) from a user's perspective, if things are done properly, it'll just be a matter of installing another app.
And btw using a Matrix server with a WhatsApp bridge could also be a temporary solution to bypass the ban. But I haven't tested it with business accounts.
Matrix however is a great choice imo.
Forcing your users to first install one more messaging app is going to cause people abandoning you immediately or slowly churn, which can make or break a product.
Facebook owned the users. Similarly, WhatsApp owns the users.
The choice between:
1. Tying yourself to a platform that could boot you at any time, while also reaching all the users they already have
2. Bootstrapping something from scratch with 0 users, when all the users you want are already using said platform and have little incentive to leave
Choice 1 is often the only viable option, particularly if you're financially dependent on the results.
I also think we repeatedly see, even on HN, that "it'll just be a matter of installing another app" is actually a huge mental hurdle for many people - especially those who aren't technologically savvy enough to know how to use something that isn't Facebook/WhatsApp for communicating with people.
It’s all well and good taking a principled stance on not using FB/WhatsApp/etc. While you’re doing that, your competitors are selling out, using them, and getting to your customers more easily than you are. They might get cut off but that’s tomorrow’s problem, while your problem is here and now.
One classic joke is buying your competitors supplier.
Perhaps channel your energy to building something else more stable, and stop adding value to Meta (because they really dgaf about you)
This is the way of the world. Unaccountable mega-corporations, the feudal lords of the modern world.
I know there is much to be indignant about, but it kills the curious conversation that this site exists for, and that only makes everything worse. No one is saying you owe unaccountable mega-corporations better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
Huh, interestingly, a particular superpower has also become very feudal the last half year.