“The radio waves that we detected were at really steep angles, like 30 degrees below the surface of the ice,” said Stephanie Wissel, associate professor of physics, astronomy and astrophysics who worked on the ANITA team searching for signals from elusive particles called neutrinos.
“My guess is that some interesting radio propagation effect occurs near ice and also near the horizon that I don't fully understand, but we certainly explored several of those, and we haven't been able to find any of those yet either,” Wissel said. “So, right now, it's one of these long-standing mysteries, and I'm excited that when we fly PUEO, we'll have better sensitivity. In principle, we should pick up more anomalies, and maybe we'll actually understand what they are. We also might detect neutrinos, which would in some ways be a lot more exciting.”
madaxe_again · 23h ago
My read of this (I am a physicist by training) is that they’re possibly picking up radio emissions from triboelectric effects due to the enormous shear forces in a slowly motile ice sheet grinding over a quartz rich (east Antarctica has a high quartz concentration) substrate.
We’re talking about cubic kilometres of ice, moving jerkily with stick-slip motion over bedrock - the potentials generated would likely be in the megavolt range.
It would also explain the 30 degree incidence, as you’d expect the signal to refract within the ice and exit at a shallow angle.
In their shoes, I would be looking for correlation with seismographic events and high res GPS ice flow monitoring, not other neutrino observatories - it would seem wise to me to eliminate known physical effects as causes before invoking exotic matter.
jdonaldson · 2h ago
Are these the kind of high voltage events potentially near geothermal vents that are one of the leading explanations for biogenesis?
amy214 · 6h ago
>the potentials generated would likely be in the megavolt range.
I disagree, what we're talking here is much more than mere MEGAVOLTS what we are talking here are orders of magnitude in the JIGAWATT RANGE!!!
mtsolitary · 1d ago
That's where they left the Stargate!
layer8 · 1d ago
The second, older one, to be precise.
cluckindan · 1d ago
It’s just the almost-depleted ZPM at the abandoned ancient outpost.
Doomsday device sending out its final battery critically low warning. Activation imminent unless power restored.
biorach · 1d ago
The Thing!
boznz · 23h ago
I think it was a headline similar to this, and the subsequent rabbit-holes I went down a few years ago that ended up as a my last techno-thriller novel.
nyc_data_geek1 · 1d ago
Who Goes There?
plasticchris · 1d ago
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."
SketchySeaBeast · 1d ago
At the Mountains of Madness would be more apropos than The Call of Cthulhu.
yobid20 · 1d ago
Keep on the lookout for any cloaked ships and most definitely dont enter any ancient looking circular chambers
cs02rm0 · 1d ago
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vkaku · 23h ago
They moved the decepticons to the Antarctic ice shelves eh.
nikanj · 1d ago
I bet the signal says Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!
Beijinger · 1d ago
OMFG. This must be Hitler in New Swabia
mhh__ · 1d ago
he's been chilling down there, playing scrabble with tupac and lord lucan
Xss3 · 1d ago
No its old zealand
crotho · 22h ago
HF can reflect off the antarctic, which can be heard as a kind of warbling effect when communicating over the pole between US and Australia for example.
“The radio waves that we detected were at really steep angles, like 30 degrees below the surface of the ice,” said Stephanie Wissel, associate professor of physics, astronomy and astrophysics who worked on the ANITA team searching for signals from elusive particles called neutrinos.
“My guess is that some interesting radio propagation effect occurs near ice and also near the horizon that I don't fully understand, but we certainly explored several of those, and we haven't been able to find any of those yet either,” Wissel said. “So, right now, it's one of these long-standing mysteries, and I'm excited that when we fly PUEO, we'll have better sensitivity. In principle, we should pick up more anomalies, and maybe we'll actually understand what they are. We also might detect neutrinos, which would in some ways be a lot more exciting.”
We’re talking about cubic kilometres of ice, moving jerkily with stick-slip motion over bedrock - the potentials generated would likely be in the megavolt range.
It would also explain the 30 degree incidence, as you’d expect the signal to refract within the ice and exit at a shallow angle.
In their shoes, I would be looking for correlation with seismographic events and high res GPS ice flow monitoring, not other neutrino observatories - it would seem wise to me to eliminate known physical effects as causes before invoking exotic matter.
I disagree, what we're talking here is much more than mere MEGAVOLTS what we are talking here are orders of magnitude in the JIGAWATT RANGE!!!
That one led to some pretty wild speculation: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/27/world/neutrino-research-a...