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Ask HN: Would banning obviously fake moves in wrestling improve US reputation?

4 amichail 17 4/19/2025, 2:21:00 PM

Don’t people around the world wonder why such obviously fake moves are tolerated in professional wrestling broadcasts?

Comments (17)

cratermoon · 12d ago

Pro Westling is not a competitive sport, it's athletic theater. The premise is storytelling, not combat. Look up "kayfabe"

amichail · 12d ago

There is no reason to have obviously fake moves though.

krapp · 12d ago

Sure there is, it's entertainment. One of the most popular wrestlers of all time was, canonically, an unkillable undead revenant from Hell. It's comic books in real life, it's fine, no one cares.

If you're interested in (still fake but) more technically grounded performance look into Japanese puroresu.

wryoak · 12d ago

Yes and why have fake weapons in action films? The US will never be respected if Hollywood actors aren’t actually shooting at each other

squeegee_scream · 12d ago

The fake moves are to keep people from getting hurt. If you start using real moves it becomes a different thing entirely, one might even call it MMA or Olympic wrestling

amichail · 12d ago

Not all moves in professional wrestling look obviously fake. Just take out the ones that do.

cratermoon · 11d ago

What, exactly, is a "fake" move in scripted mock combat?

docmechanic · 12d ago

I think other contemporary factors are far more likely to negatively impact our reputation abroad.

science4sail · 12d ago

I don't understand this question - professional wrestling is a form of sport/entertainment and generally irrelevant to international relations. Is "wrestling" supposed to be a metaphor for something else?

amichail · 12d ago

It doesn't reflect well on the average American when obviously fake moves are acceptable in professional wrestling.

JojoFatsani · 11d ago

Brother, you are missing the point entirely. Maybe not entirely your fault you don’t understand if you did not grow up in the US or Mexico.

WWE is a soap opera, not a sport. There are impressive feats of athleticism/death defiance (Shane O Mac jumping off a 20 ft cage, etc), but nobody over the age of 6 thinks for a minute it’s actually a real competition.

amichail · 11d ago

Just because it is fake doesn't mean it won't be better by omitting obviously fake moves.

JojoFatsani · 11d ago

This is a really weird hill to die on

thesuperbigfrog · 12d ago

Sometimes the scripted drama becomes real:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Screwjob

"Maybe stage plays would be more credible if the actors used more realistic props."

Yeah, maybe.

Not sure what this has to do with US reputation . . .

krapp · 12d ago

Also people should check out Super Eyepatch Wolf's "The Unreality of Pro Wrestling," which is a very good video essay on the fiction and metafiction of the genre.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POsvxBJfTwg

allears · 12d ago

US reputation will not improve unless we become a stable and cooperative partner. We're headed in the opposite direction at the moment.

pavel_lishin · 12d ago

AND it turns out mom was there the whole time! Her face was just hidden behind her hands!