Fun fact: If you try to find an analysis of what the Bible says about the antichrist, you’ll find that the number of verses about the topic varies depending on who is trying to explain it to you.
The reason for that is that the antichrist is only mentioned four times, only in the book of John, and when it is mentioned it’s explicit that “antichrist”
a) means anyone that doesn’t believe in Jesus (1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3, 2 John 1:7)
b) And there have been a lot of them on Earth (1 John 2:18)
That’s it. That is every single bit of information referencing “antichrist” in the entire Bible.
The assertion that the king and dragon from Daniel and Revelation are the same thing as the antichrist is a later invention that is not at all supported by the text.
bigyabai · 4h ago
It is somewhat funny that nobody is talking about this. Thiel sounds like a gin addict on payday, why is he so insistent on this nonsense? The answer is much simpler than the article implies; it's eschatology.
Thiel understands that the main way you "use" religion is by leveraging dispensationalist narratives to reinforce the idea of "prophecy" and "truth" post-hoc. If you can create your own angel and devil (eg. "Russia vs Ukraine") then you can lead other people through your interpretation of faith. This is a documented phenomenon since Zoroastrianism, the reason the state embraces religion is to demolish secular identity and control thought.
It makes sense, when you think about it. The ultimate form of subversion is legitimizing your low-wage, uneducated burnouts and making the intelligentsia the new social underclass. Once you do that, everyone that matters will believe 2+2=5.
treetalker · 2h ago
Eschatology or e-scatology?
zzzeek · 3h ago
in fact that is exactly the argument made by the interview here, so there you go
I agree it's weird nobody is talking about this. Post to a bunch of techs that they're going to spy on their chats you'll get thousands of outraged comments. Post that a prominent billionaire with deep inroads into many areas of the tech industry and governments around the world, not only but specifically including the area of mass surveillance and data collection, might be gearing up to bring planetary scale religious indoctrination online, yawns.
Yeul · 2h ago
Look on the bright side China will save us from all these batshit insane American clowns.
The reason for that is that the antichrist is only mentioned four times, only in the book of John, and when it is mentioned it’s explicit that “antichrist”
a) means anyone that doesn’t believe in Jesus (1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3, 2 John 1:7)
b) And there have been a lot of them on Earth (1 John 2:18)
That’s it. That is every single bit of information referencing “antichrist” in the entire Bible.
The assertion that the king and dragon from Daniel and Revelation are the same thing as the antichrist is a later invention that is not at all supported by the text.
Thiel understands that the main way you "use" religion is by leveraging dispensationalist narratives to reinforce the idea of "prophecy" and "truth" post-hoc. If you can create your own angel and devil (eg. "Russia vs Ukraine") then you can lead other people through your interpretation of faith. This is a documented phenomenon since Zoroastrianism, the reason the state embraces religion is to demolish secular identity and control thought.
It makes sense, when you think about it. The ultimate form of subversion is legitimizing your low-wage, uneducated burnouts and making the intelligentsia the new social underclass. Once you do that, everyone that matters will believe 2+2=5.
I agree it's weird nobody is talking about this. Post to a bunch of techs that they're going to spy on their chats you'll get thousands of outraged comments. Post that a prominent billionaire with deep inroads into many areas of the tech industry and governments around the world, not only but specifically including the area of mass surveillance and data collection, might be gearing up to bring planetary scale religious indoctrination online, yawns.