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Grug Design
39 qazxcvbnmlp 19 8/21/2025, 7:27:24 PM grug.design ↗
Seems like they just pasted the original grug article into gpt and said rewrite this but about design.
This made me chuckle. Part of software development in 2025 is covertly getting high signal feedback from (watching) actual users of the product, and ignoring high noise feedback from "stakeholders" who often don't (know how to) use the product.
I don't know where they keep finding these product managers, but they must have one hell of a smile and handshake to get hired and then never learn the product or ever contribute anything of value.
The real https://grugbrain.dev has much better design.
Website doesn't scroll unless you are directly inside the main div.
Also that HTML is an abomination for such a minimal site...
I think this kind of undermines the point, and goes a long way to showing that sometimes the best way to communicate actually is in a way that is unique.
Grug design reads like a shallow copy, not written by an actual designer but by a developer with a passing, and frustrated, experience with design. It also lacks references to shiny rocks and complexity daemon, and *shaman*. Because the design system shaman reliably summons the daemons.
That's a very sophisticated statement from a cave ~painter~ designer :)
> grug like dense UI that show all tools.
And yet I have to scroll on this very site while two thirds of my monitor are empty.
Newspapers look like they do for a reason. Grug eye tired sweeping too far left-right.
Grug split difference, leave room for user to use tiling window manager to make article take up half screen while other half is HN box to talk about article.
> scroll override
no. bad grug
The Grug Brained Developer (2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44303542