Practicality always win. People will eventually get sick of a hip product which is difficult to use and if it is also cheaper? That's even better.
TechRemarker · 8h ago
Just wished the RAV4 was as modern and refined and tech forward as the newer comparable Hyundai’s. Reliability of Toyota with the tech and refinement of Hyundai would be unbeatable for the segment. The new rav4 is a step in the right direction at least.
bborud · 7h ago
What do you mean by modern and refined? I'm not trying to be funny, I am just curious what those terms mean to you.
Daneel_ · 7h ago
Not the original commenter, but I would say that Toyota has a long history of being a few generations behind on tech, and also has a history of hard grey plastic interiors.
incomingpain · 10h ago
Car whose most expensive trim is about the same price as other car's lowest trim.
hermitcrab · 8h ago
And (more importantly in my book) not made by a company headed by someone who does fascist salutes at public events.
twilo · 8h ago
Which one is which?
Daneel_ · 8h ago
The RAV4 is far cheaper than the Telsa, at least here in Australia where TFA is from.
The most expensive RAV4 is around AUD$65,000, while the cheapest Telsa Model Y is around AUD$70,000.
anonfordays · 8h ago
Teslas will continue to fall in down the leaderboards as right-wing governments strip EV incentives away. Gas cars won't go away as soon as I previously thought.
seanmcdirmid · 42m ago
As long as most countries don’t pump their own oil and the countries that do become increasingly politically unstable, there will be huge national security pressure to adopt EVs. No one wants their economy shut down because Iran decided to close down a straight.
burnt-resistor · 56m ago
Krato-kakisto-pluto-klepto-theocracies will be the undoing of us and the planet. In a more rational world without the yoke of corporate corruption, EVs would heavily subsidized and there would be far more investment in efficient public transport infrastructure.
hxii · 7h ago
From my perspective (with our prices) - I have no idea how.
RAV4 starts at ~$62.8 with the most expensive being ~$85.5k.
Model Y starts at ~$73k with the most expensive being ~$85.9k.
At the lower end of the scale, neither is a good car, but especially the RAV4.
glimshe · 5h ago
In the US Southeast the cheapest trim is $29,250. Maybe you're talking about hybrid in Australian/Canadian dollars?
burnt-resistor · 51m ago
2025 RAV4
Starting MSRP $29,250
Confirmed.[0]
But not including "Delivery, Processing and Handling Fee" $1,545 (USD) or sales tax, which varies by state/county, typically around 8.25%. So the minimum subtotal is $30,795 USD or grand total $33,335. Fees and prices are (or were) somewhat negotiable.
Makes me wish IA had regional captures to consider Anycast because what someone in one region saw isn't necessarily what someone else in another saw.
therouwboat · 6h ago
Why is it not good? Higher trim levels give you all wheel drive, offroad tuned suspension and bigger wheels, but not everyone wants or needs those options.
hsod · 5h ago
RAV4 base model starts at $29k USD
meowfly · 5h ago
Yeah. I don't know where OP is from but I recently helped someone shop for a hybrid and it was a little under 40k for a 2025.
The most expensive RAV4 is around AUD$65,000, while the cheapest Telsa Model Y is around AUD$70,000.
RAV4 starts at ~$62.8 with the most expensive being ~$85.5k.
Model Y starts at ~$73k with the most expensive being ~$85.9k.
At the lower end of the scale, neither is a good car, but especially the RAV4.
But not including "Delivery, Processing and Handling Fee" $1,545 (USD) or sales tax, which varies by state/county, typically around 8.25%. So the minimum subtotal is $30,795 USD or grand total $33,335. Fees and prices are (or were) somewhat negotiable.
Also:
0. https://web.archive.org/web/20250617171046/https://www.toyot...Makes me wish IA had regional captures to consider Anycast because what someone in one region saw isn't necessarily what someone else in another saw.