https://thedailywtf.com/ will have practically unlimited content. It may have to change the unit of time in its name just to keep up
add-sub-mul-div · 5h ago
I don't know which would be sadder. If the Microsoft employees hate their jobs more than anything for being forced to publicly defend this, or if they're being sincere.
elpocko · 5h ago
I was under the impression that dogfooding was a good practice for quality control that improves your products. Not anymore, apparently. Now we make fun of them for doing that.
Arainach · 4h ago
Of course the team developing these AI models should be dogfooding them. Telling the rest of the company they have to use them is pushing tools without understanding contexts.
If AI is that much more amazing, just measure employees on the usual metrics and those using AI should be so obviously far ahead that you can get rid of the others. Measuring "usage of AI" is a garbage metric that will not achieve anything good.
bwfan123 · 2h ago
> Not anymore, apparently. Now we make fun of them for doing that.
What ? do things when it makes sense, not as a top-down mandate.
Somehow, ceos/management have gotten AI religion, are now thrusting it top-down. This is like management dictating the tech-stack to use when it is not in their competency area.
PapaPalpatine · 7h ago
I really hate all of these executives trying to shove AI our throats.
onlyhumans · 3h ago
Instead of rewarding our efficiency using AI with maybe a 3-4 day work week, they’ll just lay us off instead
ulfw · 4h ago
They're doing to to eventually replace you or your colleague with said AI
derwiki · 6h ago
Why?
conartist6 · 5h ago
Imagine your company announced a new initiative where everybody's job would become "manager".
Would you do to work for a company where every single person including yourself was a manager?
This idea is silly because it asserts that we can replace work with management. But management is just more work, so we can just replace it with more management, and I think if you follow the logic to its outcome no work needs to be done by anyone anymore ever
ajkjk · 5h ago
... Because of the shoving
TrackerFF · 6h ago
My guess...they want to their employees actions as some sort of training data?
Makes sense if you think about it. Really force everyone to use AI tools, check what prompts they've entered, and analyze areas where you can cut headcount.
Drakim · 6h ago
A much more likely scenario is that it's to hit some sort of internal metric, to have a certain percentage use of AI tools is a goal for management somewhere.
hypercube33 · 6h ago
Or the flip side - copilot is an unorganized mess and feels way behind OpenAI. Maybe making people use it will put pressure to make it better. Windows NT -- David Cutler has a rule about eating your own dogfood. I don't think they eat enough of it at Microsoft anymore with the lack of build quality in the last few years when they laid off their big QA team.
Some of the stuff I've seen M365 Copilot do is just flat out broken and awful and it's presented in their enterprise (stable) channels.
chung8123 · 6h ago
Eating your own dogfood as they say is a great way to improve a product.
mdaniel · 4h ago
If that were true, they'd just open up copilot agent for general access for any open source project, otherwise their training data will skew toward Microsoft-centric interactions on Microsoft-centric languages and processes
I was going to offer the terraform or ansible organizations as examples, since I'd guess a lot of those bugfixes are rote work, but then realized there's no way Microsoft would assist IBM to ship products
Can't be qemu, given their recent no-slop policy, so maybe the idea is harder than I thought
bgwalter · 6h ago
Liuson told managers that AI "should be part of your holistic reflections on an individual's performance and impact."
Running MSFT like an Asian sweat shop will sink it long term, but perhaps that is the goal.
tonyedgecombe · 2h ago
>Running MSFT like an Asian sweat shop will sink it long term
It's not all bad news then.
megaloblasto · 6h ago
I'm convinced people only use Microsoft because of licensing contracts and familiarity. It's an awful company with subpar products.
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/115762
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/115743
If AI is that much more amazing, just measure employees on the usual metrics and those using AI should be so obviously far ahead that you can get rid of the others. Measuring "usage of AI" is a garbage metric that will not achieve anything good.
What ? do things when it makes sense, not as a top-down mandate.
Somehow, ceos/management have gotten AI religion, are now thrusting it top-down. This is like management dictating the tech-stack to use when it is not in their competency area.
Would you do to work for a company where every single person including yourself was a manager?
This idea is silly because it asserts that we can replace work with management. But management is just more work, so we can just replace it with more management, and I think if you follow the logic to its outcome no work needs to be done by anyone anymore ever
Makes sense if you think about it. Really force everyone to use AI tools, check what prompts they've entered, and analyze areas where you can cut headcount.
Some of the stuff I've seen M365 Copilot do is just flat out broken and awful and it's presented in their enterprise (stable) channels.
I was going to offer the terraform or ansible organizations as examples, since I'd guess a lot of those bugfixes are rote work, but then realized there's no way Microsoft would assist IBM to ship products
Can't be qemu, given their recent no-slop policy, so maybe the idea is harder than I thought
Running MSFT like an Asian sweat shop will sink it long term, but perhaps that is the goal.
It's not all bad news then.