God, that's actually painful to watch. I can't believe I lasted two minutes.
twothreeone · 1h ago
Mark's definitely mastered optimizing for peak cringe factor while at 1.95T valuation.
zelphirkalt · 5m ago
They just need an emotionless android without conscience, who does whatever is in the best interest of raking in money. They don't need technological excellence. Whether people at his company technologically succeed or fail, what matters is, that the company processes all the PII and feeds the algorithms. The rest is just for show.
I was going to say that’s two minutes I won’t get back (and I won’t) but, ya know, schadenfreude.
fluoridation · 1h ago
It's kind of like Peep Show, where the writers tried to engineer the most awkward social situations, only without the jokes.
chrisweekly · 33m ago
Tangent: if you like cringey social awkwardness comedy (not my usual cup of tea, but in this case it's extraordinary, and hilarious), try "I Think You Should Leave".
As bad as I thought that was going to be, it was worse. And I set the bar very low for anything involving Zuck. #MustWatch
I_am_tiberius · 1h ago
I really missed seeing Zuck sweat.
OJFord · 1h ago
Would be good to change the OP link to this - it's the same clip but plus a bit more.
alangibson · 1h ago
That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program level money on this and it's still dumb as a rock.
I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.
poidos · 49m ago
It's because their main business (ads, tracking) makes infinite money so it doesn't matter what all the other parts of the business do, are, or if they work or not.
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smelendez · 1h ago
That was my thought — the memory might not have been properly cleared from the last rehearsal.
I found the use case honestly confusing though. This guy has a great kitchen, just made steak, and has all the relevant ingredients in house and laid out but no idea how to turn them into a sauce for his sandwich?
privatelypublic · 1h ago
Well, it _IS_ a rock after all.
johnnyanmac · 1h ago
At this point, honesty is an oasis that is the 2025 year of scams and grifts. I'm just waiting for all the bubbles to pop.
fullshark · 16m ago
It's been this way since natural internet user base growth dried up
dgfitz · 47m ago
> confused the AI.
I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.
patrickhogan1 · 1h ago
Credit where it’s due: doing live demos is hard. Yesterday didn’t feel staged—it looked like the classic “last-minute tweak, unexpected break.” Most builders have been there. I certainly have (I once spent 6 hours at a hackathon and broke the Flask server keying in a last minute change on the steps of the stage before going on).
axblount · 1h ago
Live demos are especially hard when you're selling snake oil.
tkamado · 1h ago
Live demos being hard isn't an excuse for cheating.
SpicyLemonZest · 50m ago
Despite the Reddit post's title, I don't think there's any reason to believe the AI was a recording or otherwise cheated. (Why would they record two slightly different voice lines for adding the pear?) It just really thought he'd combined the base ingredients.
jncfhnb · 5m ago
It seems extremely likely that they took the context awareness out of the actual demo and had the AI respond to pre defined states and then even that failed.
The AI analyzing the situation is wayyy out of scope here
autoexec · 34m ago
That's even worse because it would mean that it wasn't the scripted recording that failed, it means the AI itself sucks and can't tell that the bowl is empty and nothing was combined. Either this was the failure of a recorded demo that was faked to hide how bad the AI is, or it accurately demonstrated that the AI itself is a failure. Either way it's not a good look.
steve1977 · 21m ago
So MetaAI is basically the dumb cousin of Siri? I didn‘t expect to ever write that.
asadm · 40m ago
this isn't cheating. the models are unpredictable. This product is going out the door this month, there is no reason to cheat.
smelendez · 1h ago
Yeah, I just watched it again and I’m mostly confused why the guy interrupted what sounded like a valid response.
I wonder if his audio was delayed? Or maybe the response wasn’t what they rehearsed and he was trying to get it on track?
jncfhnb · 3m ago
It was reading step 2 and he was trying to get it to do step 1.
He had not yet combined the ingredients. The way he kept repeating his phrasing it seems likely that “what do we do first” was a hardcoded cheat phrase to get it to say a specific line. Which it got wrong.
Probably for a dumb config reason tbh.
triceratops · 41m ago
> I’m mostly confused why the guy interrupted what sounded like a valid response
I thought they were demonstrating interruption handling.
andoando · 36m ago
I think he was just trying to get it back on track instead of letting it go on about something that was completely off
wahnfrieden · 18m ago
Because it was repeating what it had already described rather than moving on to the first step
hadlock · 58m ago
Adrenaline makes people do interesting things
skhameneh · 1h ago
As much as it'll be "interesting" to see how models behave in real world examples (presumably similarly to how the demos went), I'm not convinced this is a premade recording like what seems to be implied.
I'm imagining this is an incomplete flow within a software prototype that may have jumped steps and lacks sufficient multi-modal capability to correct.
It could also be staged recordings.
But, I don't think it really matters. Models are easily capable of working with the setup and flow they have for the demo. It's real world accuracy, latency, convenience, and other factors that will impact actual users the most.
What's the reliability and latency needed for these to be a useful tool?
For example, I can't imagine many people wanting to use the gesture writing tools for most messages. It's cool, I like that it was developed, but I doubt it'll see substantial adoption with what's currently being pitched.
dabbz · 1h ago
Yea the behavior of the AI read to me more like a hard coded demo but still very much "live". I suspect him cutting it off was poorly timed and that timing could have amplified due to WiFi? Who knows. I wasn't there. I didn't build it.
YeahThisIsMe · 1h ago
So the live demo failed?
blinding-streak · 26m ago
Everything is always so cringe with Facebook and Zuck. It was always doomed to fail.
danpalmer · 3m ago
It's because Zuck doesn't actually believe in anything. Zuck's values, politics, and business goals change with the wind so everything that stems from them feels empty, because it's missing the true drive.
In contrast, nothing Steve Jobs said felt empty, whether we agreed or disagreed with what he was saying it was clear that he was saying it because he believed it, not because it's what he thought you wanted to hear.
AdmiralAsshat · 1h ago
The Kotaku article on this had a really nice final zinger[0]:
> Oh, and here’s Jack Mancuso making a Korean-inspired steak sauce in 2023.
I have a friend who does magic shows. He sells his shows as magic and stand-up comedy. It's both live entertainment, okay, but he is the only person I've ever seen use that tagline. We went to see him perform once and everything became clear when he opened the night.
"This is supposed to be a magic show," he told us. "But if my tricks fail you can laugh at it and we'll just do stand-up comedy."
Zuck, for a modest and totally-reasonable fee, I will introduce you to my friend. You can add his tricks (wink wink) to your newly-assembled repertoire of human charisma.
monooso · 40m ago
If your friend isn't already aware of Tommy Cooper [1], he's in for a treat.
So, wait, is he just a shitty magician and a funny guy, or does he fail on purpose?
pciexpgpu · 52m ago
It's an ad network with an attached optional pair of glasses.
It's the platform Zuck always wanted to own but never had the vision beyond 'it's an ad platform with some consumer stuff in it'.
I am super impressed with the hardware (especially the neural band) but it just so happens that a very pricey car is being directly sold by an oil company as a trojan horse.
We all know what the car is for unfortunately.
I can't wait to see what Apple has in store now in terms of the hardware.
autoexec · 31m ago
Someone would have to be dumb to give facebook access to collect data from everything they see and hear in their life combined with the ability to plaster ads over every available surface in their field of view. They'd have to be beyond stupid to pay for it.
sampton · 1h ago
I bet they rehearsed a dozen times and never failed as bad live. Got to give them props for keeping the live demos. Apple has neutered its demos so much it's now basically 2 hr long commercials.
donkyrf · 1h ago
The new Apple presentations are much more information dense, and tailored to the main (online) audience. They’re clearly better.
sampton · 1h ago
More dense but less trust worthy. I don't think they would have pushed apple intelligence the way they did if there was a live demo.
crooked-v · 1h ago
Live Apple demos were always held together with duct tape in the first place. That first "live" iPhone demo had a memorized sequence that Jobs needed to use to keep the whole phone OS from hard crashing.
ajcp · 31m ago
During that first iPhone demo they also had a portable cell tower (cell on wheels) just off-stage to mimic a better signal strength than it was capable of. NYTimes write-up on the whole thing is worth the read [0].
Even with that, Live demos are incredibly more better than hour long demos.
kridsdale3 · 50m ago
They also force the developers to make it work, under threat of being fired, and in the ire of Steve Jobs case, being yeeted in to the sun along with their ancestors and descendents.
jeffgreco · 57m ago
They are boring infomercials now. The live audience used to keep it from feeling too prepackaged.
asadm · 39m ago
and so boring. I would take Jobs presenting a live demo than any of this heavily-produced stuff.
lifthrasiir · 14m ago
One important thing to note: demo didn't fail! (Or, at least not in the way people usually think of)
> You've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate a pear to add to the sauce.
This is actually the correct Korean recipe for bulgogi steak sauce. The only missing piece here is that the pear has to be Pyrus pyrifolia [1], not the usual pear. In fact every single Korean watching the demo was complaining about this...
I love how they randomly blame the WiFi network, like anyone is going to buy it.
twothreeone · 1h ago
Somebody said the cooking guy was some influencer person? I noticed that many non-tech people often resort to this excuse, even in situations where it makes absolutely no sense (e.g., on a desktop with only ethernet, or with mic/speakers connected via cable). It's almost like they just substitute "bad wifi" for "glitch".
kridsdale3 · 49m ago
It's colloquial in the younger generations to use the term Wifi to actually refer to a WAN connection to one's home or building, regardless of Physical Layer Transport.
jerlam · 1h ago
It's almost certainly a joke. Everyone knows that the demo failed.
Pretty sure it's a meme, like blaming the WLAN cable.
gruez · 58m ago
*wifi cable
Reason077 · 1h ago
Bad idea to rely on WiFi for an important demo in a crowded environment. It would have worked fine in testing but when the crowd arrives and they all start streaming etc, they bring hundreds more devices all competing for bandwidth.
Zuck should have known better and used Ethernet for this one!
reader9274 · 1h ago
Should've downloaded more ram for the wifi to work better
liendolucas · 12m ago
LMAO. Billions of dollars for this, seriously? Makes Bill Gates Win95 presentation BSOD fail look professional.
And LMAO for all the companies out there burning money for getting on the train of AI just because everyones does so.
hu3 · 54m ago
I hope they keep doing live demos. This is much better than prerecorded videos.
jjbinx007 · 2h ago
This is like a Black Mirror episode. Also, is it a conscious decision to make the TTS sound so robotic?
blinding-streak · 1h ago
Maybe it's modeled on Zuck's robotic voice
MattDaEskimo · 1h ago
More than likely the full response was kept as context despite being interrupted.
Notably though, the AI was clearly not utilizing its visual feed to work alongside him as implied
nba456_ · 1h ago
still better than the pre-taped apple events. happy to see these products in action
self_awareness · 1h ago
Those WiFi's man, they're always trouble
josefritzishere · 2h ago
AI is hot trash. When will this river of garbage stop?
autoexec · 24m ago
When billionaires stop fantasizing about AI allowing them to rid themselves of the filthy peasant class which keeps feeling entitled to take even the smallest fraction of their income from them just because they're also doing all the actual work that makes that income possible.
What passes for AI is just good enough to keep the dream alive and even while its usefulness isn't manifesting in reality they still have a deluge of comforting promises to soothe themselves back to sleep with. Eventually all the sweet whispers of "AGI is right around the corner!" or "Replace your pesky employees soon!" will be drowned out by the realization that no amount of money or environmental collateral damage thrown at the problem will make them gods, but until then they just need all of your data, your water, and 10-15 more years.
zer0zzz · 1h ago
These hot takes with no context only make the ai argument stronger.
mattigames · 1h ago
That sounds a bit too much like "this is good for Bitcoin"
timpera · 2h ago
The failures on stage were kind of endearing, to be honest, especially the one with Zuck. Plus the products seem really cool, I hope I'll be able to try them out soon.
jaccola · 1h ago
Zuckerberg has negative charisma, it's painful to watch...
Jobs handled this so much better; while clearly he is pissed, he doesn't leave you cringing in mutual embarrassment, goes to show it isn't as easy as he makes it look!
that clip reminds me of how Sundar reacts to these things.
rhetocj23 · 1h ago
I mean Bill wasnt figuring out how to get back at girls that rejected him in college lol.
Zuck carries that energy no matter what he does nor what amount of wealth he amasses.
Fricken · 49m ago
Jobs was a clear communicator who emphasized user friendly products in aesthetically pleasing boxes. If Silicon Valley wasn't the most obtuse place on earth he wouldn't stand out nearly as hard.
johnnyanmac · 1h ago
Endearing is great for trying to sell a heartfelt, homeade piece of art. It clashes when it's a trillionaire company trying to pretend this product can replace entire sectors of human labor.
zer0zzz · 2h ago
Yeah. I’m impressed we have any sort of wave guide display on sale commercially this year.
https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1nkbqyk/...
"Brian's Hat" is the 1st one I saw and maybe the best: https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK-
Also "Hot Dog Car" https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau
I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.
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I found the use case honestly confusing though. This guy has a great kitchen, just made steak, and has all the relevant ingredients in house and laid out but no idea how to turn them into a sauce for his sandwich?
I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.
The AI analyzing the situation is wayyy out of scope here
I wonder if his audio was delayed? Or maybe the response wasn’t what they rehearsed and he was trying to get it on track?
He had not yet combined the ingredients. The way he kept repeating his phrasing it seems likely that “what do we do first” was a hardcoded cheat phrase to get it to say a specific line. Which it got wrong.
Probably for a dumb config reason tbh.
I thought they were demonstrating interruption handling.
I'm imagining this is an incomplete flow within a software prototype that may have jumped steps and lacks sufficient multi-modal capability to correct.
It could also be staged recordings. But, I don't think it really matters. Models are easily capable of working with the setup and flow they have for the demo. It's real world accuracy, latency, convenience, and other factors that will impact actual users the most.
What's the reliability and latency needed for these to be a useful tool?
For example, I can't imagine many people wanting to use the gesture writing tools for most messages. It's cool, I like that it was developed, but I doubt it'll see substantial adoption with what's currently being pitched.
In contrast, nothing Steve Jobs said felt empty, whether we agreed or disagreed with what he was saying it was clear that he was saying it because he believed it, not because it's what he thought you wanted to hear.
> Oh, and here’s Jack Mancuso making a Korean-inspired steak sauce in 2023.
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn248pLDoZY/?utm_source=ig_em...
0: https://kotaku.com/meta-ai-mark-zuckerberg-korean-steak-sauc...
"This is supposed to be a magic show," he told us. "But if my tricks fail you can laugh at it and we'll just do stand-up comedy."
Zuck, for a modest and totally-reasonable fee, I will introduce you to my friend. You can add his tricks (wink wink) to your newly-assembled repertoire of human charisma.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper
It's the platform Zuck always wanted to own but never had the vision beyond 'it's an ad platform with some consumer stuff in it'.
I am super impressed with the hardware (especially the neural band) but it just so happens that a very pricey car is being directly sold by an oil company as a trojan horse.
We all know what the car is for unfortunately.
I can't wait to see what Apple has in store now in terms of the hardware.
0.https://web.archive.org/web/20250310045704/https://www.nytim...
> You've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate a pear to add to the sauce.
This is actually the correct Korean recipe for bulgogi steak sauce. The only missing piece here is that the pear has to be Pyrus pyrifolia [1], not the usual pear. In fact every single Korean watching the demo was complaining about this...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_pyrifolia
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverWorkWithChi...
Zuck should have known better and used Ethernet for this one!
And LMAO for all the companies out there burning money for getting on the train of AI just because everyones does so.
Notably though, the AI was clearly not utilizing its visual feed to work alongside him as implied
What passes for AI is just good enough to keep the dream alive and even while its usefulness isn't manifesting in reality they still have a deluge of comforting promises to soothe themselves back to sleep with. Eventually all the sweet whispers of "AGI is right around the corner!" or "Replace your pesky employees soon!" will be drowned out by the realization that no amount of money or environmental collateral damage thrown at the problem will make them gods, but until then they just need all of your data, your water, and 10-15 more years.
Jobs handled this so much better; while clearly he is pissed, he doesn't leave you cringing in mutual embarrassment, goes to show it isn't as easy as he makes it look!
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo
Zuck carries that energy no matter what he does nor what amount of wealth he amasses.