Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
31moc_was_wronged329/14/2025, 12:04:09 AM cnn.com ↗
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anigbrowl · 4h ago
Says a lot that the very first person listed on that 'charliesmurders.com' site isn't condemning or mocking Kirk at all but just expressing anxiety about the likelihood of a political backlash following his death. Even the people on 4chan were expressing confusion about this and saying her remarks seemed wholly innocuous.
LocalH · 2h ago
The point is anything less than expressions of mourning is considered "violent rhetoric" by the same right-wingers who were radio silent when Melissa Hortman was murdered, and who made jokes when Paul Pelosi was bludgeoned with a hammer.
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MilnerRoute · 4h ago
Are you saying they're just harassing people they don't like?
seanmcdirmid · 2h ago
They were looking for targets to make examples of and didn't vet their targets very carefully.
zahlman · 5h ago
Not the firings, but the effort to pressure employers.
And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument).
What is that supposed to mean? That's no further away from "violent rhetoric" as the things many critics of Kirk have said recently, and been vilified for saying
martythemaniak · 3h ago
This is terrible, but luckily we have a large and robust network of free speech activists who've spent years organizing against "Cancel Culture" and defending people from getting fired for controversial views. I'm sure they'll spring into action and defend these poor folks. Let's check in on how they're doing...
LocalH · 2h ago
Musk claimed he'd pay to legally defend anyone who was fired from their job for viewpoints on this. I'm waiting for him to fail to defend anyone who isn't his brand of right-wing
mythrwy · 2h ago
For sure. The doxing and firings and deplatforming over Covid views, Jan 6 and general Trump support etc were awful and people rightfully complained but this is equally as bad. The hypocrisy is astounding.
It's like we have abandoned all principals of fairness and charity in pursuit of our political enemies.
People of all stripes say dumb stuff on social media. Unless it's immediate calls to violent or illegal action, the repercussions should probably stay on social media in my view.
sniffers · 2h ago
The thing to remember is that no one cares about hypocrisy. The people in power least of all. It's a classic authoritarian move to condemn something they engage in, because the authoritarian doesn't care about doing the right thing, they care about eradicating people whose will resist them in any way.
You will see capital L Liberals complaining about hypocrisy the whole time the autocrats rise to power, completely missing the point that hypocrisy doesn't matter. There's no scoreboard out there that says, opponent was hypocritical, automatic loss.
lisbbb · 2h ago
Turnabout is fair play, it's not hypocrisy, it's actually resentment.
LocalH · 2h ago
Whatever happened to "be the better man". Stoop to the perceived level of your worst enemy and you're just like you perceive them to be.
Kirk shouldn't have died. But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. There's a difference between celebrating his death and merely saying "he wasn't a very nice person unless you were white and male". Unfortunately, those two are being conflated. The very first listing on "charliesmurderers.com" is a woman who states in her tweet "I don't believe violence is ever the answer. It just makes everything worse" and "I hope Charlie survives", in response to those taking issue with her worrying that some further far-right Kirk followers might see this as an opportunity for "revenge". She did not champion his death. She didn't celebrate it. She just raised a point.
Unfortunately, he was killed by someone who didn't think he was as far right as they wanted. Ever heard of a "groyper"?
ingsoc79 · 1h ago
Seems unlikely that a Christian nationalist would be roommates with a trans person, no?
bruceb · 1h ago
We don't know the motivation of the killer. Seems best to wait before inventing a motive.
immibis · 1h ago
> Whatever happened to "be the better man"
It didn't work. People are now trying things that work.
mythrwy · 2h ago
An eye for an eye eventually leaves the entire world blind. Better we just act out of principals of liberty and charity in my opinion.
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And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument).
My thoughts on the legitimacy of this, from another submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45234875
It's like we have abandoned all principals of fairness and charity in pursuit of our political enemies.
People of all stripes say dumb stuff on social media. Unless it's immediate calls to violent or illegal action, the repercussions should probably stay on social media in my view.
You will see capital L Liberals complaining about hypocrisy the whole time the autocrats rise to power, completely missing the point that hypocrisy doesn't matter. There's no scoreboard out there that says, opponent was hypocritical, automatic loss.
Kirk shouldn't have died. But he also didn't say very nice things about people who aren't white males. There's a difference between celebrating his death and merely saying "he wasn't a very nice person unless you were white and male". Unfortunately, those two are being conflated. The very first listing on "charliesmurderers.com" is a woman who states in her tweet "I don't believe violence is ever the answer. It just makes everything worse" and "I hope Charlie survives", in response to those taking issue with her worrying that some further far-right Kirk followers might see this as an opportunity for "revenge". She did not champion his death. She didn't celebrate it. She just raised a point.
Unfortunately, he was killed by someone who didn't think he was as far right as they wanted. Ever heard of a "groyper"?
It didn't work. People are now trying things that work.