Sounds perfect for indoctrinating autists. Beware the influence of a big cohort. Nothing against people on the spectrum, being one myself, but one of their challenges is shedding indoctrination.
kstenerud · 5h ago
Really? I was always getting into trouble for resisting it, and asking for proof, and asking awkward questions about where the indoctrination stopped making sense.
quantified · 4h ago
In situations you chose, or in situations you were forced into? Are you clearly somewhere in the autistic spectrum?
Primary and secondary school, church, family, these are ready-made, we're ushered into. Thinking broke religion for me.
But cognitive biases and hangups (socially transmitted mental illness) are part of the environment. Took me a lot to break out of the ones I could see. People who lack an ability to see the perspective of another person (common for Asperger's) can revel in arbitrary rule systems and privileges. Can. Not destiny, but not beneficial for the total society.
kstenerud · 2h ago
> Are you clearly somewhere in the autistic spectrum?
The "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
> Primary and secondary school, church, family, these are ready-made, we're ushered into.
Yup, and for neurotypicals, belief is a function of loyalty. They believe (unconsciously) in order to demonstrate their allegiance to their clan (which is why you can't argue them out of a belief). The entire social fabric (and all institutions therein) is designed to reinforce your clan's code by telling you what to believe.
Autistics don't work that way. When we believe, we actually do believe. So we need a different approach: pretending to believe in order to preserve our social standing (and thus, safety - because people only help you if they like you, and that usually requires congruent "beliefs").
techpineapple · 6h ago
How do they reject DEI? I would be skeptical of any school so deep in the culture war it was one of the two ways you could describe them. Focus on academics.
Also how do they reject inclusion? Do they teachers tell the kids “you don’t belong here” as they pass them in the hallways?
For equity they must make the tests harder for some kids than for others. Intentionally hand out different grades for the same results.
motorest · 3h ago
> How do they reject DEI?
To me, "rejecting DEI" is a dog whistle for attracting firebrand supporters of discriminative racial and social practices, ranging from racism to sexism and whatever they can think of in between.
bediger4000 · 5h ago
I was under the impression that "rejecting DEI" just meant giving white guys the advantage. In the case of this school, I assumed it mean "all things being equal, admit rich, christian, white kids".
Primary and secondary school, church, family, these are ready-made, we're ushered into. Thinking broke religion for me.
But cognitive biases and hangups (socially transmitted mental illness) are part of the environment. Took me a lot to break out of the ones I could see. People who lack an ability to see the perspective of another person (common for Asperger's) can revel in arbitrary rule systems and privileges. Can. Not destiny, but not beneficial for the total society.
The "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
> Primary and secondary school, church, family, these are ready-made, we're ushered into.
Yup, and for neurotypicals, belief is a function of loyalty. They believe (unconsciously) in order to demonstrate their allegiance to their clan (which is why you can't argue them out of a belief). The entire social fabric (and all institutions therein) is designed to reinforce your clan's code by telling you what to believe.
Autistics don't work that way. When we believe, we actually do believe. So we need a different approach: pretending to believe in order to preserve our social standing (and thus, safety - because people only help you if they like you, and that usually requires congruent "beliefs").
Also how do they reject inclusion? Do they teachers tell the kids “you don’t belong here” as they pass them in the hallways?
For equity they must make the tests harder for some kids than for others. Intentionally hand out different grades for the same results.
To me, "rejecting DEI" is a dog whistle for attracting firebrand supporters of discriminative racial and social practices, ranging from racism to sexism and whatever they can think of in between.