Ask HN: Will AI solve homelessness by forcing UBI on countries worldwide?
1amichail87/24/2025, 12:09:18 PM
So maybe homeless people don't fear AI in the way most people do?
Comments (8)
al_borland · 3d ago
How will UBI solve homelessness?
If a decent percentage of homeless people are suffering from mental illness or addiction, throwing money at them won’t actually solve the problem.
For the drug addicts it could kill them, as they’ll get a windfall to go on a bender. For those with various mental illnesses, throwing money at them won’t magically give them the skills to be a good steward of the money and do everything need to get and keep a home.
There are also a non-trivial number of people who have jobs and aren’t homeless today, may end up homeless if they lose their job, even with UBI. For many, a job is their purpose and gives structure to their life. Take that away and addiction often fills the void.
UBI will help some, but not all. There will also likely be some unintended consequences in the form of addiction and death.
UBI also doesn’t mean people are living well, it’s the bare minimum, or maybe less than that. If everyone is getting the same amount, that life will not be a good one, as resources will be spread thin and corruption will creep into ranks of those who collect and distribute the money.
Someone who is homeless, without addiction or mental illness has nowhere to go but up, so sure, they’d like UBI. Distributions to that group would be the most difficult, so it’s questionable if they’d even see it.
cameron_b · 3d ago
Which path to wealth creation through Machine Learning bubbles up to a body which would distribute it to the masses? Not sarcastic. I think we’re a long way off from an economic situation on the ground that would connect the dots of money flows here.
PaulHoule · 3d ago
A cynical take is that if you give everybody $1000 a month, the rent goes up $1000 a month.
JohnFen · 2d ago
How would genAI force UBI on a nation?
amichail · 2d ago
By increase the unemployment rate dramatically.
JohnFen · 2d ago
I see no reason to assume that would result in UBI.
amichail · 2d ago
It's better than having a failed society with poverty and crime everywhere.
JohnFen · 2d ago
Sure, but that doesn't mean that that UBI is a natural and inevitable thing at all. If history is any guide, we're more likely to just have the failed society.
If a decent percentage of homeless people are suffering from mental illness or addiction, throwing money at them won’t actually solve the problem.
For the drug addicts it could kill them, as they’ll get a windfall to go on a bender. For those with various mental illnesses, throwing money at them won’t magically give them the skills to be a good steward of the money and do everything need to get and keep a home.
There are also a non-trivial number of people who have jobs and aren’t homeless today, may end up homeless if they lose their job, even with UBI. For many, a job is their purpose and gives structure to their life. Take that away and addiction often fills the void.
UBI will help some, but not all. There will also likely be some unintended consequences in the form of addiction and death.
UBI also doesn’t mean people are living well, it’s the bare minimum, or maybe less than that. If everyone is getting the same amount, that life will not be a good one, as resources will be spread thin and corruption will creep into ranks of those who collect and distribute the money.
Someone who is homeless, without addiction or mental illness has nowhere to go but up, so sure, they’d like UBI. Distributions to that group would be the most difficult, so it’s questionable if they’d even see it.