I am not a sysadmin -- so I keep forgetting the command to see logs cause I only need it once every 3 months.
So, systemd change is a pain for me.
rootnod3 · 15m ago
I wouldn’t call it a success it all. Almost managed to do was moving or forcing other software to get locked in. GDM, Podman, Pipewire…just to name a few.
spicyusername · 56m ago
I remember when I first upgraded a system to a version using it. This was probably a RHEL 6 -> 7 update back in 2014 or so.
It made so many common things I had to do so as a sysadmin super straightforward.
freedomben · 26m ago
Same, that was my first experience as well. It was a breath of fresh air in many ways, and after my initial learning of the new syntax, I quickly became a convert.
That said, I have had some concerns over the years about the growing scope of systemd. I think history has shown my concerns were overblown, though I think it is definitely possible and even likely that people were affected by those arguments and maybe moderated the ambitions a little bit. That could be for better or worse, I don't know, but I do think it was a factor
dontlaugh · 58m ago
These were pretty much my feelings back when I envied launchd and was frustrated with some upstart behaviour. Systemd turned out better than both.
jmogly · 35m ago
Agree wholeheartedly.
up2isomorphism · 38m ago
There are numerous distributions not using systemd. So adding “complete, utter, unmitigated “ in front of success seems far-fetched.
freedomben · 28m ago
The whole post does have a somewhat hyperbolic tone to it. Personally, I agree with the content and analysis, but I could see the language could feel a bit off-putting, especially given the past flame wars over systemd
jhickok · 26m ago
It's a lighthearted post, so probably not worth tone policing.
So, systemd change is a pain for me.
It made so many common things I had to do so as a sysadmin super straightforward.
That said, I have had some concerns over the years about the growing scope of systemd. I think history has shown my concerns were overblown, though I think it is definitely possible and even likely that people were affected by those arguments and maybe moderated the ambitions a little bit. That could be for better or worse, I don't know, but I do think it was a factor