An Uplifting Origin of 86 (2001)

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Comments (10)

paulryanrogers · 4h ago
Refreshing to see some research on how it really got started.

The breathless feigned shock that Comey would share "86 47" is tiresome, especially coming from an administration whose head unrepentantly shared an image of the president bound and tied mid-kidnapping.

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Sniffnoy · 4h ago
Is this readable for free anywhere?
taneq · 2h ago
I thought ‘86’ in this sense was rhyming slang for ‘nix’ (ie. ‘nullify’ / ‘negate’)?
Henchman21 · 1h ago
I thought the term came from a speakeasy in Manhattan that had an exit on 86th street. So when ejecting a patron who'd become too drunk & disorderly, they'd "86 'em!", which roughly meant pushing them out the exit onto 86th street. I've heard this particular tale from multiple bartenders in Manhattan. I've always questioned its veracity, as it feels a bit too good to be true!
wizardforhire · 5h ago
If you like me have grown weary of trick headlines that in no way portray the words they are written with, you will be relieved to know this is not one of them.

It’s a quick read that tickles the mammalian foraging behavior itch that is manifest by our insatiable desire for novelty.

My only complaint is that more research has not been done on this most important of esoteric subjects.

timewizard · 4h ago
The entire "86 47" saga is a game of the "woke right." Seeking victimhood status so they can smear their enemies and tie the press up in knots.

Meanwhile Trump and family are in the middle east making deal after deal and no one is really paying any attention or tracking the stakes.

This whole thing is an outrageous circus. I'm severely disappointed in all American institutions right now for playing along with it even a little bit.

ctkhn · 3h ago
Their hatred isn't of the machine, it's that they're not in charge of it. It's incredibly tiresome from both sides, to be honest, because the machine is what causes a lot of our current problems no matter who's in charge of it.
pstuart · 2h ago
The "both sides" thing had some merit in the past but that was a different world -- the current admin is a whole new level of self-dealing and disregard for the law except as a weapon to punish its enemies.
timewizard · 1h ago
Well we've witness both sides engage in that behavior recently. The only thing different about our world is the level of apologia and backward looking justifications that gets injected into social media about them.

Which I normally wouldn't comment on but your post is fairly ironic given the current thread. Which is claiming that the media is entirely absent from it's coverage of Trumps latest schemes in order to argue about what, precisely, a former FBI director meant with a picture of seashells.

Perhaps if the dog and pony show died down we could return to the very reasonable perspective that greed does not obey political boundaries.