A X account was also created to share the letter, but it was suspended by the platform, which is owned by Musk, who calls himself a “free speech absolutist.”
travisgriggs · 16h ago
This hits a nail on the head for me.
I have nuanced/mixed feelings about X, Tesla, and SpaceX. They are all products that have moved past the “because it’s different” disruption stages. But in each case, I’m intrigued and supportive by certain aspects still, especially SpaceX.
But the “Brand of Elon Musk” I want nothing to do with. Just absolutely nothing. The man is unhinged and attached to way too much unchecked power.
al_borland · 12h ago
A reasonable person doesn’t start a company with a stated goal to make humans a multi planetary species.
A reasonable person thinks, “it sure would be neat if there was a way for humans to live on Mars,” then finishes his shower and goes to work selling insurance.
To get some of these advancements in the world, it takes giving a little allowance to the unhinged from time to time.
watwut · 12h ago
And then proceeds to engage in biggest govermental corruption and destruction we have seen.
No, we can get and do get advances without people like Musk. They seem slower, because they lie less and defraud less. Which is net positive.
lawn · 12h ago
Only a nazi could possibly make way for humanity to live on Mars, right?
“Best case, 10 years. Worst case, 15 to 20 years” - Elon Musk in 2011 on when men would get to Mars.
al_borland · 3h ago
Who among us hasn't been wrong when estimating a timeline, especially decades into the future?
lawn · 2h ago
There's a difference between well-informed estimates and picking estimates out of thin air.
nickevante · 17h ago
There is always a demand problem when your MVP product is being compared against the existing incumbents.
Tesla cars are the MVPs being compared to existing automotives just like the Model T was the MVP being compared to horse carriages.
That said Elon could do an even better job of inspiring his employees on the vision if the premise of this post is indeed true.
nneonneo · 15h ago
EV sales are up, Tesla sales are down, and around the world people are protesting against Tesla because of Elon specifically.
If this was simply a demand problem because Teslas were being compared against “incumbents” (ICE cars?), what explains their strong performance in the past, and the sudden drop in performance now? The standard excuse is the new Model Y changeover, but Electrek offers lots of evidence that demand for the new car is weak too.
nickevante · 15h ago
The incumbent being the concept of a car (EV or ICE) that you own and that you have to drive to get to places.
Don't compare the Tesla MVP with an existing concept of a car.
Demand for new "car" is a noise. Austin FSD launch is the key differentiator and I foresee lot of sleeping on the floor moment from Elon to see it through.
But if they do, the 100 year old concept of a "car" will be completely redefined.
brokensegue · 13h ago
People have been talking about replacing car ownership with ride shares for over a decade. Waymo already exists
peterlada · 9h ago
EV convert here. I owned two Teslas so far. Won't buy a third one until Musk is the CEO. My sentiment is widely shared on /r/tesla and other Tesla forums. South Korea will get my car payment.
tim333 · 9h ago
The trouble with getting rid of Musk from an investor point of view is his vision/hype/bs/skill/whatever keeps the stock valued at many times the price/earnings of other car companies.
Maybe if the stock crashes the board/investors would say au revoir.
I have nuanced/mixed feelings about X, Tesla, and SpaceX. They are all products that have moved past the “because it’s different” disruption stages. But in each case, I’m intrigued and supportive by certain aspects still, especially SpaceX.
But the “Brand of Elon Musk” I want nothing to do with. Just absolutely nothing. The man is unhinged and attached to way too much unchecked power.
A reasonable person thinks, “it sure would be neat if there was a way for humans to live on Mars,” then finishes his shower and goes to work selling insurance.
To get some of these advancements in the world, it takes giving a little allowance to the unhinged from time to time.
No, we can get and do get advances without people like Musk. They seem slower, because they lie less and defraud less. Which is net positive.
Tesla cars are the MVPs being compared to existing automotives just like the Model T was the MVP being compared to horse carriages.
That said Elon could do an even better job of inspiring his employees on the vision if the premise of this post is indeed true.
If this was simply a demand problem because Teslas were being compared against “incumbents” (ICE cars?), what explains their strong performance in the past, and the sudden drop in performance now? The standard excuse is the new Model Y changeover, but Electrek offers lots of evidence that demand for the new car is weak too.
Demand for new "car" is a noise. Austin FSD launch is the key differentiator and I foresee lot of sleeping on the floor moment from Elon to see it through. But if they do, the 100 year old concept of a "car" will be completely redefined.
Maybe if the stock crashes the board/investors would say au revoir.