Gemma 3 QAT Models

4 mdp2021 3 4/19/2025, 5:29:25 PM simonwillison.net ↗

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mdp2021 · 12d ago
Also see

# Smarter Local LLMs, Lower VRAM Costs – All Without Sacrificing Quality, Thanks to Google’s New [Quantization-Aware Training] "QAT" Optimization

https://www.hardware-corner.net/smarter-local-llm-lower-vram...

> According to Google, they’ve «reduced the perplexity drop by 54% (using llama.cpp perplexity evaluation) when quantizing down to Q4_0.»

philipkglass · 12d ago
Are there comparisons between int4 QAT versions of these models and the more common GGUF Q4_K_M quantizations generated post-training? The QAT models appear to be slightly larger:

https://ollama.com/library/gemma3/tags

I presume QAT are better but I don't see how much better.

mdp2021 · 12d ago
> I presume QAT are better but I don't see how much better

Not the data for Google's Gemma, but some numbers are here: https://aclanthology.org/2024.findings-acl.26/ ( https://aclanthology.org/2024.findings-acl.26.pdf )